Changes for Round 8 v Hawthorn

[dejavoodoo44]

Was thinking during the game how we had no luck in this regard. Also we kept getting in each other's way a lot. Trying too hard probably and a lot were not used to playing with each other. Work in progress but a little bit of luck doesn't hurt.

Yes, there was a game earlier this year, I think it was the Essendon game, where it seemed that almost every deflected, spilt or spoilt ball, bounced into the arms of an Essendon player. It was doing my head in. Though I suppose that's one of the reasons that coaches emphasise two way running: to just slightly tilt the odds in your favour, when gathering loose balls.

[Ludwig]

I see one of Mcinerny or Stoddard in the team but not both. Personally, I prefer Mc because he seems to have more speed and dash; attributes that we have lacked in recent years. Stoddard does not take the game on enough in my view, and certainly kicks to poor options too often at this stage in his career.

McInerney and Staddart are both very quick. I doubt if there's much between them in regard. Stoddart always takes the game on at NEAFL level, but when he tried it in his first couple AFL games, he found out quickly that it wasn't so easy. I like both p layers and there should be room in the side for both players if they continue to develop well.

I agree with Deja's comments that a lot of these kicks under pressure turn out to be a matter of luck. When a team is under intense pressure, like we were, the forwards tend to come up field and are drawn to the ball, leaving the space down field to the opposition. This is a prime reason for turnovers of this type.

If you watch other matches where the Swans aren't playing and the emotional element is not there, you'll see very much the same errors being committed by good players on good teams. We tend to be a bit too critical of our players, especially the young ones. We expect too much too soon.

I'm watching the Hawthorn Melbourne game and all the talk is about how much Petracca has improved. Well he was pick 2 in 2014. It's his sixth year. It's about time. Imagine what we would be saying about having an under-performing pick 2 in our side for 5 years.

[Melbourne_Blood]

McInerney and Staddart are both very quick. I doubt if there's much between them in regard. Stoddart always takes the game on at NEAFL level, but when he tried it in his first couple AFL games, he found out quickly that it wasn't so easy. I like both p layers and there should be room in the side for both players if they continue to develop well.

I agree with Deja's comments that a lot of these kicks under pressure turn out to be a matter of luck. When a team is under intense pressure, like we were, the forwards tend to come up field and are drawn to the ball, leaving the space down field to the opposition. This is a prime reason for turnovers of this type.

If you watch other matches where the Swans aren't playing and the emotional element is not there, you'll see very much the same errors being committed by good players on good teams. We tend to be a bit too critical of our players, especially the young ones. We expect too much too soon.

I'm watching the Hawthorn Melbourne game and all the talk is about how much Petracca has improved. Well he was pick 2 in 2014. It's his sixth year. It's about time. Imagine what we would be saying about having an under-performing pick 2 in our side for 5 years.

Good point on Petracca. He is looking bloody good this year though. Bit of patience is sometimes required.


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[neilfws]

Just saw a quote from Longmire after the scratch match. Says Reid will "hopefully be available next week".

[waswan]

Where is Ling at ? Put him in for Stoddard
Blakey last chance but as a wing
Warner for Squizzy or play him in position

COR Stoddard Warner
Ling Reid Taylor

[Roadrunner]

McInerney and Staddart are both very quick. I doubt if there's much between them in regard. Stoddart always takes the game on at NEAFL level, but when he tried it in his first couple AFL games, he found out quickly that it wasn't so easy. I like both p layers and there should be room in the side for both players if they continue to develop well.

I agree with Deja's comments that a lot of these kicks under pressure turn out to be a matter of luck. When a team is under intense pressure, like we were, the forwards tend to come up field and are drawn to the ball, leaving the space down field to the opposition. This is a prime reason for turnovers of this type.

If you watch other matches where the Swans aren't playing and the emotional element is not there, you'll see very much the same errors being committed by good players on good teams. We tend to be a bit too critical of our players, especially the young ones. We expect too much too soon.

I'm watching the Hawthorn Melbourne game and all the talk is about how much Petracca has improved. Well he was pick 2 in 2014. It's his sixth year. It's about time. Imagine what we would be saying about having an under-performing pick 2 in our side for 5 years.

It’s not just luck, guys though of course this is a factor. The main problem is that our players downfield are not reading the play: put it down to experience I guess but it is no coincidence that 9 times out of 10 the kick under pressure is marked by an opposition player who is in the right position! Another point: when a defender is under pressure, his teammates behind him should call for the ball as they are mainly in the clear and then can pass to a player upfield or sideways to advantage. It’s pointless to just hoof the ball anywhere, hoping it will go to teammate-this is AFL not park football!

[Melbourne_Blood]

Where is Ling at ? Put him in for Stoddard
Blakey last chance but as a wing
Warner for Squizzy or play him in position

COR Stoddard Warner
Ling Reid Taylor

According to Barracudas scratch match report, Ling played managed minutes and didn’t put his hand up for selection.

They’ve tried Blakey on a wing more than once . It’s not working. He needs a spell.


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[crackedactor 01]

Stoddart is a quandary for me. I was at the game yesterday and live he just looked a level below. Can’t knock his effort but whether it was nerves, pressure, or confidence, he just didn’t seem to have it. On the other hand, I also believe in giving young players a few goes so I’d be happy for him to stay as he might just need a few good moments to believe in himself before going to the next level.

I thought yesterday was the first time he shown something. The kicking can improve no doubt, but I feel it was just nerves taking over. Just needs to take the game on a few times and learn. Worth persisting worth I feel.

[Ralph Dawg]

I thought yesterday was the first time he shown something. The kicking can improve no doubt, but I feel it was just nerves taking over. Just needs to take the game on a few times and learn. Worth persisting worth I feel.

I like Stoddart in Neafl. Takes the game on at that level and needs to bring it to the AFL. The same applies to McInerney, Foot and Ling. We really could do with one or two of these guys kicking on as we haven't had a really good running defender since Malceski and Kenneally.

[bloodspirit]

Blakey is the one who worries me. He's looking like a park footballer more and more.

Blakey's issues are mental/confidence related. He has the ability. He needs to settle himself down, especially with the ball in hand and extra-especially when kicking for goal.

[Mark26]

Blakey's issues are mental/confidence related. He has the ability. He needs to settle himself down, especially with the ball in hand and extra-especially when kicking for goal.

I suspect there is a combination of factors with Blakey. In the absence of senior tall forwards like Bud and Reid, Blakey would be getting the best defenders playing on him when he goes forward. I also think he's been trying to do too much at times and looks a little cooked. A rest in the twos might do him a world of good. In the meantime, hopefully we get Reid back and McCartin stays in. That way when Blakey comes back in, he plays as a third tall when forward and is released into the guts when needed.

[barracuda]

I suspect there is a combination of factors with Blakey. In the absence of senior tall forwards like Bud and Reid, Blakey would be getting the best defenders playing on him when he goes forward. I also think he's been trying to do too much at times and looks a little cooked. A rest in the twos might do him a world of good. In the meantime, hopefully we get Reid back and McCartin stays in. That way when Blakey comes back in, he plays as a third tall when forward and is released into the guts when needed.

I think Blakey should play a deeper forward. He is getting completely lost playing high forward. The high forward role is a gut running, half attack half defensive role. He has never really defended in his life and trying to is messing him up. Elijah Taylor is the same.

[111431]

I think Blakey should play a deeper forward. He is getting completely lost playing high forward. The high forward role is a gut running, half attack half defensive role. He has never really defended in his life and trying to is messing him up. Elijah Taylor is the same.

spot on. They can learn the chasing / defensive but Blakey and Taylor were probably the stars of their junior teams and always had offensive roles. You can't turn them into 'gut runners' who can run both ways overnight. They are used to demanding the ball - not chasing it. let them play a more natural role at this stage of their development

[Mel_C]

We could be without O'Riordan, Hayward and Hewett. I wasn't aware that Hewett injured his back. He has a bulging disc so that's not a short term injury.

Reid and Melican will be available.

[Blood Fever]

We could be without O'Riordan, Hayward and Hewett. I wasn't aware that Hewett injured his back. He has a bulging disc so that's not a short term injury.

Reid and Melican will be available.

Hewitt would be a very big loss. Would be the one to shadow O' Meara. If this is the case, coach might have to bite the bullet and definitely play Mills in the middle.