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  • wolftone57
    Veterans List
    • Aug 2008
    • 5857

    #91
    Originally posted by The Runner
    Rubbish.
    His issue is confidence. Dropping him may not be the best solution. A head coach who decides to show faith in you, despite the dip in output and confidence, could be exactly what was needed. This happens in cricket all the time. A bit of faith can be rewarded exponentially.

    No surprise on Warner - we seem to have a formula of a couple of games then a break for new players. And we'll need him through the busy period. It's not an indication of form or future.
    Not rubbish at all. He is being treated differently to other players. Will Hayward got dropped a few seasons ago for similar form. He went back to the twos and played very well in two games earning a recall. Do you think that getting flogged in every game by his opponents is going to do much for his confidence? I don't.

    Aussie Rules is not cricket. It is entirely different. Even though in cricket they leave players in for far too long. I mean there are several good examples. Then they drop a player like Dean Jones when he was on fire. Sad really. Cricket is not a good example as it is full of inconsistencies. Try something else mate. I mean Kim Hughes was captain of Australia. Nappies and all.

    Don't tell me that due to the NEAFL not playing they are not getting a good hit out. They played Hawks last week. Melbourne the week before. Much better than playing Southport, Canberra Demons etc.

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    • The Runner
      Regular in the Side
      • May 2017
      • 718

      #92
      Originally posted by wolftone57
      Not rubbish at all. He is being treated differently to other players. Will Hayward got dropped a few seasons ago for similar form. He went back to the twos and played very well in two games earning a recall. Do you think that getting flogged in every game by his opponents is going to do much for his confidence? I don't.

      Aussie Rules is not cricket. It is entirely different. Even though in cricket they leave players in for far too long. I mean there are several good examples. Then they drop a player like Dean Jones when he was on fire. Sad really. Cricket is not a good example as it is full of inconsistencies. Try something else mate. I mean Kim Hughes was captain of Australia. Nappies and all.

      Don't tell me that due to the NEAFL not playing they are not getting a good hit out. They played Hawks last week. Melbourne the week before. Much better than playing Southport, Canberra Demons etc.

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      I'm not saying what should happen to Blakey. But I trust Horse knows what's needed to get him going again.

      Your statements about the current scratch matches v. NEAFL is way off the mark

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      • Ruck'n'Roll
        Ego alta, ergo ictus
        • Nov 2003
        • 3990

        #93
        Originally posted by wolftone57
        Not rubbish at all. He is being treated differently to other players. Will Hayward got dropped a few seasons ago for similar form. He went back to the twos and played very well in two games earning a recall. Do you think that getting flogged in every game by his opponents is going to do much for his confidence? I don't.
        Whether playing Blakey in the firsts at the present time is a good or bad idea I'm not sure, I feel my judgement is being severely impaired by only seeing games on the Idiot Box (or is that the Box of Idiots?)

        And while there are plenty of RWOers that will critique decisions made by the club, but accusing a senior assistant of nepotism (and the match committee of collusion in the same) seems like rubbish to me too Wolfie.


        As for the inclusions,
        I'm looking forward to seeing Bell get a go, hopefully he'll spend more time in the middle than starvation corner.
        When I heard Ling was in, I did glance at the calendar, but international joke day is July 1st - so he may really be in.
        Last edited by Ruck'n'Roll; 24 July 2020, 04:01 PM.

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        • waswan
          Senior Player
          • Oct 2015
          • 2047

          #94
          Blakey hasnt been setting the world on fire thats for sure but we are in no position to drop anyone over 195cm

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          • Melbourne_Blood
            Senior Player
            • May 2010
            • 3312

            #95
            Originally posted by waswan
            Blakey hasnt been setting the world on fire thats for sure but we are in no position to drop anyone over 195cm
            Disagree on the last point. We’ve recently got Mccartin and now Reid back , and Blakey hasn’t being playing tall really. I think he should have been dropped by now also. Either that or a major role change.

            Sometimes you need a kick up the bum to get you going.


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            • jono2707
              Goes up to 11
              • Oct 2007
              • 3326

              #96
              Blakey will appreciate the help up forward with a couple of talls back in the team. And it was prudent of the coaching staff to stick with him. We won't see the best of him for a few more years but this is all really important for his development.

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              • Markwebbos
                Veterans List
                • Jul 2016
                • 7186

                #97
                I think if Blakey can't perform with McCartin and Reid in the side, then he probably should be dropped / given a different role. Although when you watch on the TV it's a lot harder to see who's doing what.

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                • Melbourne_Blood
                  Senior Player
                  • May 2010
                  • 3312

                  #98
                  Originally posted by Markwebbos
                  I think if Blakey can't perform with McCartin and Reid in the side, then he probably should be dropped / given a different role. Although when you watch on the TV it's a lot harder to see who's doing what.
                  Agree on the first point, last chance. Second point I don’t feel applies to Blakey. He’s playing forward / wing, he’s not playing shut down or tagging roles in either of those positions. Unless he’s doing magic tricks for the crowd behind the play I’m not sure what the relevance is of any off the ball vision of Blakey.


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                  • Ruck'n'Roll
                    Ego alta, ergo ictus
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 3990

                    #99
                    Originally posted by Markwebbos
                    Although when you watch on the TV it's a lot harder to see who's doing what.
                    Good point, couldn't express it better myself
                    Last edited by Ruck'n'Roll; 25 July 2020, 06:54 AM.

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                    • stevoswan
                      Veterans List
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 8559

                      Originally posted by wolftone57

                      Aussie Rules is not cricket. It is entirely different. Even though in cricket they leave players in for far too long. I mean there are several good examples. Then they drop a player like Dean Jones when he was on fire. Sad really. Cricket is not a good example as it is full of inconsistencies. Try something else mate. I mean Kim Hughes was captain of Australia. Nappies and all.
                      Seriously silly comment regarding Kim Hughes.....a great cricketer rightly rewarded for his loyalty to Australian cricket and not to the mighty dollar. No doubt the players deserved a bigger slice of the pie but frankly Lille, Marsh and Chappelli were just greedy school yard bullies for what they did to Hughes. The last three words of the above quote are just macho BS. Sorry.....

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                      • Blood Fever
                        Veterans List
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 4050

                        Originally posted by wolftone57
                        Not rubbish at all. He is being treated differently to other players. Will Hayward got dropped a few seasons ago for similar form. He went back to the twos and played very well in two games earning a recall. Do you think that getting flogged in every game by his opponents is going to do much for his confidence? I don't.

                        Aussie Rules is not cricket. It is entirely different. Even though in cricket they leave players in for far too long. I mean there are several good examples. Then they drop a player like Dean Jones when he was on fire. Sad really. Cricket is not a good example as it is full of inconsistencies. Try something else mate. I mean Kim Hughes was captain of Australia. Nappies and all.

                        Don't tell me that due to the NEAFL not playing they are not getting a good hit out. They played Hawks last week. Melbourne the week before. Much better than playing Southport, Canberra Demons etc.

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                        Your comment about Hughes is piss poor. Was never approached to play World Series and was left holding the baby as captain at a very long age. Bullied and undermined by Marsh and Lillee on the field and by Ian Chappell in the Ch 9 commentary box. Played one of the great innings on a dodgy MCG wicket when he got a hundred against the West Indies at their peak. Match winning innings. Cheap shot.

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                        • TheBloods
                          Suspended by the MRP
                          • Feb 2020
                          • 2047

                          I see a real chance for Oli Florent to have a break out game. Parker needs some support ASAP and he's lost the two team-mates that would best provide that in back-to-back weeks. Time for Florent to step up and show he can break a game open which is what we need from a midfielder taken with pick 11. It's sink or swim time for him.

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                          • Mel_C
                            Veterans List
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 4470

                            Originally posted by Scottee
                            So what did Stoddart do to himself?

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                            I read that it's his back. No details on how bad it is.

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                            • The Big Cat
                              On the veteran's list
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 2356

                              Didn’t take long for the naysayers on RWO to find themselves a new whipping boy after the retirement of McVeigh and the finding form of Hayward. My advice - Stay off social media Nick Blakey.
                              Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                              • Melbourne_Blood
                                Senior Player
                                • May 2010
                                • 3312

                                Originally posted by The Big Cat
                                Didn’t take long for the naysayers on RWO to find themselves a new whipping boy after the retirement of McVeigh and the finding form of Hayward. My advice - Stay off social media Nick Blakey.
                                Pffft. He’s a kid seriously out of form who’s contributed zero in his past 6 matches. Many posters on here are saying that he should have been dropped by now. Whipping boy is a bit hysterical.


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