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  • barry
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 8499

    General footy chat Grand Final venue

    Some interesting conversations coming out of the grand final debate recently.

    Since NSW isnt going to host it, and very unlikely that any NSW based team would 'qualify' to host it, we can discuss in a neutral manner.

    What I found very intresting was a comment I heard, where the Victorian sport minister was involved in deciding the venue. Surely this is an AFL matter, or is the code owned by the victorian government?

    There is also a political play here, in that the MCG and Victorian do not really want a "successful" grand final, as it will put more pressure on the MCG deal, and they do not really want a situation where the venue can be decided very late, because again, it will showcase the ability to 'earn hosting rights' to the grand final.

    So the options are:
    1) Gabba - While QLD has helped the AFL, I'm not sure this is really a strong case. I can see the AFL giving them the preliminary finals, but not the grand final.
    2) Optus Oval - Probably the most likely venue to actually host a full house since they have no border to Victoria. And WA was the first established state to join the VFL, and had to put up with many finals in Melbourne in the early years. So they also deserve it.
    3) Adedlaide Oval - Another great venue to host it, and Port look like being No.1 team, and therefore earning it.

    I hope the AFL delay the decision until the teams are decided, even if this means a two week period between prelims and granny. And whoever is the higher qualifier of Brisbane, West Coast or Port, gets it. There must be a lot less to organise this year.
  • Melbourne_Blood
    Senior Player
    • May 2010
    • 3312

    #2
    Without Queensland’s help , there would be no GF. I think they have to get it, they’ve saved the season and saved the AFL a very significant amount of money. It would be a huge slap if they weren’t rewarded with the Jewel in the crown after everything they’ve done. It would be like donating a kidney to your dying uncle and they getting left out of the will.


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    • stevoswan
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      • Sep 2014
      • 8548

      #3
      Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
      Without Queensland’s help , there would be no GF. I think they have to get it, they’ve saved the season and saved the AFL a very significant amount of money. It would be a huge slap if they weren’t rewarded with the Jewel in the crown after everything they’ve done. It would be like donating a kidney to your dying uncle and then getting left out of the will.
      Agree....if I was to write my thoughts on this matter, that would pretty much be it. Queensland definitely saved the season. We owe them.

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      • KTigers
        Senior Player
        • Apr 2012
        • 2499

        #4
        Originally posted by stevoswan
        Agree....if I was to write my thoughts on this matter, that would pretty much be it. Queensland definitely saved the season. We owe them.
        Hopefully the deeply ingrained sense of entitlement of the so-called southern footy states doesn't get it in the way. I see the west Australians
        are already rattling on about Perth having a bigger stadium and it being a "footy mad" city.

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        • barry
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          • Jan 2003
          • 8499

          #5
          I think the AFL has perpetuated the myth that the grand final needs weeks (or years) of planning if you change venue, which of course is used to justify the MCG 50 year deal.
          I'm not buying it. Especially this year.

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          • stevoswan
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            • Sep 2014
            • 8548

            #6
            Those of us who rightly believe Brisbane should be rewarded with the GF may end up disappointed. With the AFL announcing that they are deciding who gets the game some time next week and the new restrictions just announced in and around Brisbane, their fate and Perth's good fortune may now be sealed. Had today's Covid events in Queensland not happened, surely Brisbane was going to be the one.

            Get ready for feral finals crowds folks!

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            • Hotpotato
              Senior Player
              • Jun 2014
              • 2269

              #7
              Darwin would be OK

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              • barry
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                • Jan 2003
                • 8499

                #8
                Player 4, NSW, has entered the game again!.

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                • stevoswan
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                  • Sep 2014
                  • 8548

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Hotpotato
                  Darwin would be OK
                  How good did that ground look last night.....like a carpet. It's a superb surface.....although stands might be an issue.

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                  • Melbourne_Blood
                    Senior Player
                    • May 2010
                    • 3312

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Hotpotato
                    Darwin would be OK
                    Going on the quality of last nights game, I hope not. They normally avoid playing there after July due to the humidity apparently. You can see why.


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                    • Sandridge
                      Outer wing, Lake Oval
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 2065

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
                      Going on the quality of last nights game, I hope not. They normally avoid playing there after July due to the humidity apparently. You can see why.


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                      Thought last night would be an entertaining game but it was a shocker, wasn't it? Watching Carlton win didn't help! Even though the weather was fine, the ground seemed very slippery.

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                      • KTigers
                        Senior Player
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 2499

                        #12
                        Originally posted by barry
                        I think the AFL has perpetuated the myth that the grand final needs weeks (or years) of planning if you change venue, which of course is used to justify the MCG 50 year deal.
                        I'm not buying it. Especially this year.
                        The issue with the grand final going forward is that it is effectively owned by the Vic government. They bought it in 2017 for the next
                        40 years. It's not a lot different to them buying the Grand Prix and the Australian Open tennis. The idea of the grand final needing months/
                        years of planning is utter BS. Major rock festival sites can cover ten times amount of real estate a stadium takes up, are 12-14 hour
                        events and can be built from scratch (ie bare ground) in about two weeks, sometimes less.
                        Last edited by KTigers; 23 August 2020, 08:46 AM.

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                        • Melbourne_Blood
                          Senior Player
                          • May 2010
                          • 3312

                          #13
                          I hope WA don’t get it. Would make the Eagles very tough to beat for the flag, the way they’re going at the moment. I could do without another Eagles flag personally.


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                          • Thunder Shaker
                            Aut vincere aut mori
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 4187

                            #14
                            I hope the Grand Final is a neutral venue in relation to the two sides who make it, though that will be likely to depend on the results of the prelims.

                            The AFL has moved the Grand Final before. The 1991 Grand Final was not at the MCG, but was at Waverley because the Southern Stand at the MCG was being rebuilt. (Waverley Park hosted 6 out of 7 finals in 1991, including one West Coast "home" final.)
                            "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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                            • barry
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                              • Jan 2003
                              • 8499

                              #15
                              I hope WA get it. They did the hard yards to make this a pseudo national AFL competition at the start, and weren't even allowed to host their own finals in the first 10 or so years.

                              Best ground, most deserving.

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