Best 22 2021

[Markwebbos]

His big knock is on his endurance, which you don't see here.

I watched the full U'17 GF opener where he won BOG.

If you're just picking BOG on his highlights reel, fair enough. But to say he drifted in and out of the game is an understatement. I suspect he won based on his 1st quarter alone.

If you check this podcast there's an extended interview with him:

Road to the Draft - AFL.com.au

There's been a few others like that, who've turned out OK. Stick him in the forward line and increase his midfield minutes as he increases his tank.

[Mr Magoo]

His big knock is on his endurance, which you don't see here.

I watched the full U'17 GF opener where he won BOG.

If you're just picking BOG on his highlights reel, fair enough. But to say he drifted in and out of the game is an understatement. I suspect he won based on his 1st quarter alone.

If you check this podcast there's an extended interview with him:

https://www.afl.com.au/podcasts/road-to-the-draft

His endurance may not be elite, but I can tell you his 2km time trials arent terrible, just not high end and I dont think enought to make him a liability.


I think the knock would be more that his disposal count in the past has been not been overly high and he would have very few games with 20 plus disposals. To his credit I did see an improvement in that over the series against GWS this year.

He does make a very good highlights reel though as he does make an impact with ball in hand, he is hard at it and he has a beautiful looking left foot kick.

[Nico]

His endurance may not be elite, but I can tell you his 2km time trials arent terrible, just not high end and I dont think enought to make him a liability.


I think the knock would be more that his disposal count in the past has been not been overly high and he would have very few games with 20 plus disposals. To his credit I did see an improvement in that over the series against GWS this year.

He does make a very good highlights reel though as he does make an impact with ball in hand, he is hard at it and he has a beautiful looking left foot kick.

He is still only 18. If he gets 20 stats with a bias to kicks, and hits the Swans target much of time, then that already makes us a better side. Cuts down our turnover ratio big time.

[The Runner]

His endurance may not be elite, but I can tell you his 2km time trials arent terrible, just not high end and I dont think enought to make him a liability.


I think the knock would be more that his disposal count in the past has been not been overly high and he would have very few games with 20 plus disposals. To his credit I did see an improvement in that over the series against GWS this year.

He does make a very good highlights reel though as he does make an impact with ball in hand, he is hard at it and he has a beautiful looking left foot kick.

This sounds a lot like Heeney

[jono2707]

If he's a midfielder, I hope we play him as a mid. That's all I ask.

[Auntie.Gerald]

My concern in this current AFL regime is having to many inside mids in the traditional sense that are not multi dimensional in different positions. Getting exposed against the quick teams has serious downside playing so many slow inside mids on the field at the on time.

Our depth and roles are looking better, but i sense we need some more class in the mids ie one more 21 to 24 yr old traded in....... that really add to high level football use and takes us up the ladder. Moving up from 16th on the ladder we need more quality experience plus we cant rely on Bud etc to be there and win us 3 games by himself !

Draft / Trade In 2020 = 4 spots ?

Pick 3 ? or a traded in high level player?
Campbell
Gulden?
P.McCartin?


B Mills Rampe Cunningham
HB Lloyd AA Dawson
C Florent Rowbottom Blakey
HF Heeney Franklin McInerny
F Papley Reid Hayward
Foll Sinclair Parker Kennedy
Interchange McCartin, Stephens, Hewett, Fox

23.Thurlow
24.Campbell?
25.Gulden?
26.Taylor
27.Brand
28.Oriordan
29.Gould
30.Clarke
31.Warner
32.Ling
33.Wicks
34. McLean
35. Oconnor
36. Knoll
37. Melican
38.P.McCartin?
39. PICK 3 ?


on the way out at least 11 players:

Ronke - trade late 50s?
Foot
Maibaum
Stoddart
Reynolds
Gray
Rowles
Amartey
E.Taylor
Bell
Naismith?

[O'Reilly Boy]

My concern in this current AFL regime is having to many inside mids in the traditional sense that are not multi dimensional in different positions. Getting exposed against the quick teams has serious downside playing so many slow inside mids on the field at the on time.

Our depth and roles are looking better, but i sense we need some more class in the mids ie one more 21 to 24 yr old traded in....... that really add to high level football use and takes us up the ladder. Moving up from 16th on the ladder we need more quality experience plus we cant rely on Bud etc to be there and win us 3 games by himself !

Draft / Trade In 2020 = 4 spots ?

Pick 3 ? or a traded in high level player?
Campbell
Gulden?
P.McCartin?


B Mills Rampe Cunningham
HB Lloyd AA Dawson
C Florent Rowbottom Blakey
HF Heeney Franklin McInerny
F Papley Reid Hayward
Foll Sinclair Parker Kennedy
Interchange McCartin, Stephens, Hewett, Fox

23.Thurlow
24.Campbell?
25.Gulden?
26.Taylor
27.Brand
28.Oriordan
29.Gould
30.Clarke
31.Warner
32.Ling
33.Wicks
34. McLean
35. Oconnor
36. Knoll
37. Melican
38.P.McCartin?
39. PICK 3 ?


on the way out at least 11 players:

Ronke - trade late 50s?
Foot
Maibaum
Stoddart
Reynolds
Gray
Rowles
Amartey
E.Taylor
Bell
Naismith?

Bell and Maibaum the unlucky ones there. Maibaum has impressed me in reserves, but perhaps he's going to fall off the list without an opportunity in the first 22.
I'd keep Bell, though. And perhaps Naismith gets one more chance?

[Ralph Dawg]

I'd love to see Will Gould given a run in 2021. Just not sure exactly what his role would be, who his competition is and who he could displace. He just seems to be a little in no where land - not quite tall, fast or fit enough but has made up for it in junior footy with his strength, competitiveness and disposal.

[Markwebbos]

I'd love to see Will Gould given a run in 2021. Just not sure exactly what his role would be, who his competition is and who he could displace. He just seems to be a little in no where land - not quite tall, fast or fit enough but has made up for it in junior footy with his strength, competitiveness and disposal.

Forward. Plenty of vacancies.

[Aaron]

Can Will be developed into a Josh Kennedy Type? Their height and weight are similar and he can be strong and competitive too. He will need a strong pre-season though.

[Mark26]

Can Will be developed into a Josh Kennedy Type? Their height and weight are similar and he can be strong and competitive too. He will need a strong pre-season though.

He could be a wrecking ball in the mids. He is a big lad, a fair amount of strength with huge hands. Agreed that he'd need to work on his tank. There's been no indication of a change of position for Will, but stranger things have happened.

[bloodspirit]

I'm quite surprised at this. Surely Gould's best position is defence, and I think that's where we'll most likely see him deployed. I don't know why he hasn't played this year but I think he has enough speed and height. And our defence is not the hardest it's been to break into like when Teddy, Reg, Smooch, Macca and Rampe were playing together. Currently, Rampe (when fit) is about the only absolute lock in our defence and there are a whole bunch of players in the mix for the other defensive positions and Gould can contend for the positions played by the likes of Fox and Thurlow who have been in our best 22 most of our recent games.

[O'Reilly Boy]

So, going into the draft, a potential 22:

Rampe Melican Cunningham
Dawson McCartin Mills

Heeney Kennedy Blakey
Hickey Parker Rowbottom

Papley Reid Franklin
Florent Sinclair Hayward

McInerney Hewitt Stephens Campbell/#3


Probably need to think about another defender into the mix—Fox or Thurlow at the expense of one of the tall forwards?

Maybe too many talls with Reid, Sinclair and, hopefully a fit Buddy (but I'd like to see Sinclair as a forward and secondary ruck, at least for a few weeks).

[Captain]

So, going into the draft, a potential 22:

Rampe Melican Cunningham
Dawson McCartin Mills

Heeney Kennedy Blakey
Hickey Parker Rowbottom

Papley Reid Franklin
Florent Sinclair Hayward

McInerney Hewitt Stephens Campbell/#3


Probably need to think about another defender into the mix—Fox or Thurlow at the expense of one of the tall forwards?

Maybe too many talls with Reid, Sinclair and, hopefully a fit Buddy (but I'd like to see Sinclair as a forward and secondary ruck, at least for a few weeks).

Interesting line up. You seemed to have forgotten the reigning Bob Skilton medalist though...

I still think we need to play Mills in the midfield. Put Lloyd at HBF, Mills in the middle and drop Campbell/#3.

[O'Reilly Boy]

Interesting line up. You seemed to have forgotten the reigning Bob Skilton medalist though...

I still think we need to play Mills in the midfield. Put Lloyd at HBF, Mills in the middle and drop Campbell/#3.

I did! How funny. Your version feels more balanced, and pretty smart across HB. I'm interested in how I am less upset now by Aliir's departure than I was a couple of days ago.

Make us look like we've got a bit of a team, although I would also be looking towards a level of improvement from Hayward, and to a resumption of Heeney's development. I was a bit more positive about Florent's work in 2020 than many who post here.