2021 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • Auntie.Gerald
    Veterans List
    • Oct 2009
    • 6478

    Ludwig mate I would have to say that isnt quite true IMHO

    Bolton is a level above and it show most weeks
    "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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    • Nico
      Veterans List
      • Jan 2003
      • 11339

      Originally posted by Ludwig
      The time for taking Shai Bolton was in the 2016 draft, but we opted for Will Hayward instead. Bolton has turned into a first rate player, but we are well stocked with similar players. Richmond run him through the midfield where he's had a major impact. I would like to see us do the same with a few of our small forwards, but we only get to see Papley there on a few occasions.
      Kinnear is allowed one mistake.
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      • Ludwig
        Veterans List
        • Apr 2007
        • 9359

        Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
        Ludwig mate I would have to say that isnt quite true IMHO

        Bolton is a level above and it show most weeks
        No one is doubting that Bolton is a very good player and I wished we picked him instead of Hayward. It's not often that a small player like Bolton gets to spend so much time as an inside mid. It makes it hard to compare him to similar players.

        I think Papley is the best comparison from our list and I Papley would be just as good as a midfielder. It's too close to call who I would rate higher overall, Papley or Bolton.

        We also have several good smallish forward mids coming through with Gulden and Campbell.

        Every club would love to have Bolton on their list, but at what price? And how bad is the need for such a player? I feel the Swans are very well covered for small forwards with speed, skills and the ability to play through the midfield.

        If we are going to hand out lobs of cash, it should be for a KPP. I had Harry Mckay on my radar for a while, but I think now with the year he is having, he will be priced out of our range.

        I would keep in check our hopes of landing a top player in the trade market. The timing is just not right. It's better to hold back now and wait until the end of Buddy's contract next year, which should free up plenty of cap space.

        We should also keep in mind that we drafted a top key forward in McDonald, so we need to have enough cap space set aside to be sure of retaining him long term. What we need is to find a high quality 2nd key forward. Maybe McLean will be the one. He's on a good trajectory. We are not in a hurry. We still have Buddy and Reid for now. It's a matter of who can partner up for a good combination with McDonald moving into the future. Someone like Reid, but less injury prone, would be fine.

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        • Aprilbr
          Senior Player
          • Oct 2016
          • 1803

          AFL website today reporting that Dawson has yet to re-open negotiations to re-sign with us beyond this season. We cannot afford to lose players like him coming into his prime. Let's hope a deal is done by season's end.

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          • mcs
            Travelling Swannie!!
            • Jul 2007
            • 8166

            Originally posted by Aprilbr
            AFL website today reporting that Dawson has yet to re-open negotiations to re-sign with us beyond this season. We cannot afford to lose players like him coming into his prime. Let's hope a deal is done by season's end.
            Should be an absolute priority for mine. Even if we have to make hard calls on another player or two as a result.
            "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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            • TheBloods
              Suspended by the MRP
              • Feb 2020
              • 2047

              No word on Stephens or Mccartin re-signing either. Wouldnt panic just yet but if we lose any of these 3 while some other plain duds are being signed up on long contracts then our list management people are asleep at the wheel

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              • bloodspirit
                Clubman
                • Apr 2015
                • 4448

                We definitely don't want to lose McCartin, Dawson or Stephens. And I'll be surprised if we do. They will all be highly prioritised by the club. None of them seem unhappy, although Dawson is a bit enigmatic. I imagine they'll all stay provided they get fair offers which we will surely offer them.
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                • Aprilbr
                  Senior Player
                  • Oct 2016
                  • 1803

                  Yes all three are absolute priorities. Stephens, being in and out of the side this season, probably needs reassurance of his importance to our future. McCartin has been very positive about Sydney and re-signing as recently as one month ago. Surely, Dawson can see how important and valued he is to us?

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                  • Mark26
                    Senior Player
                    • Jan 2017
                    • 1535

                    Originally posted by bloodspirit
                    We definitely don't want to lose McCartin, Dawson or Stephens. And I'll be surprised if we do. They will all be highly prioritised by the club. None of them seem unhappy, although Dawson is a bit enigmatic. I imagine they'll all stay provided they get fair offers which we will surely offer them.
                    We also have Parker unsigned as well as Hewett, Ling and Gould. I don't want to lose any of these players (including Gould who hasn't debuted yet).

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                    • stevoswan
                      Veterans List
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 8555

                      Calm the farm everyone. Early days, let's not **** ourselves. Pointless chatter.

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                      • Jimitron5000
                        Warming the Bench
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 455

                        Originally posted by stevoswan
                        Calm the farm everyone. Early days, let's not **** ourselves. Pointless chatter.
                        Come on, this is a forum on the internet! Hysteria rules!

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                        • stevoswan
                          Veterans List
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 8555

                          Originally posted by Jimitron5000
                          Come on, this is a forum on the internet! Hysteria rules!
                          True.

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                          • stevoswan
                            Veterans List
                            • Sep 2014
                            • 8555

                            Re: Jordan Dawson not having signed up yet.....check this vid from 4:18 onwards for the next minute. Not sure we have a lot to worry about.

                            Jordan Dawson - Press Conference, 13 May 2021 - YouTube

                            When asked if there is a bit of a lure to go back to SA, he answered: "Ah no, not at this stage no, nup." Which doesn't eliminate that one day he might but I think his heart is with us for now.

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                            • Markwebbos
                              Veterans List
                              • Jul 2016
                              • 7186

                              Anyone can spout weasel words at a press conference. We need JD to sign on the dotted line.

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                              • stellation
                                scott names the planets
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 9720

                                In the case of all three mentioned (McCartin, Stephens and Dawson) I don't think it's that abnormal for them not to have signed a new contract/extension at this stage of the season.
                                I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                                We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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