Swans v Suns: Round 6.

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  • Bexl
    Regular in the Side
    • Jan 2003
    • 817

    Originally posted by caj23
    Clarkson’s Hawks are a very ordinary unit, but they come to play every single week

    I don’t think you could say the same for Longmire in his time at the Swans
    Just wondering who you Barack for?

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    • The Big Cat
      On the veteran's list
      • Apr 2006
      • 2360

      Originally posted by Swanny40519
      If Lloyd gets in the Swans best I will delete my membership card. This effort is utter crap.
      He more often than not butchers the ball. The thing that annoys me the most about him is the way he runs past and calls for a handpass from a bloke who is a better kick and decision maker than him. (i.e. most of the team)
      Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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      • lwjoyner
        Regular in the Side
        • Nov 2004
        • 964

        I forgot to mention the umps. Chamberlain at least. Did not pay are mark to Mills on the boundary line but paid on to a suns player at 3 qtr time and he was able to kick a goal almost the same .

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        • longmile
          Crumber
          • Apr 2011
          • 3373

          Originally posted by lwjoyner
          I forgot to mention the umps. Chamberlain at least. Did not pay are mark to Mills on the boundary line but paid on to a suns player at 3 qtr time and he was able to kick a goal almost the same .
          Chamberlain easily gifted them 2 or maybe even 3 goals. Lucky it wasn't a close game

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          • mcs
            Travelling Swannie!!
            • Jul 2007
            • 8177

            Originally posted by lwjoyner
            I forgot to mention the umps. Chamberlain at least. Did not pay are mark to Mills on the boundary line but paid on to a suns player at 3 qtr time and he was able to kick a goal almost the same .
            I thought today showed just how broken the holding the ball rule is in its current implementation. If the rules were properly applied, I reckon there would have been about 25 more free kicks in that game. The amount of times Gold Coast got away with HTB/Incorrect Disposal was mind boggling. Didn't have any impact on the contest as we didn't turn up, but the umpiring today was truly woeful.
            "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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            • sprite
              Regular in the Side
              • Jan 2003
              • 813

              Originally posted by The Big Cat
              He more often than not butchers the ball. The thing that annoys me the most about him is the way he runs past and calls for a handpass from a bloke who is a better kick and decision maker than him. (i.e. most of the team)
              Don't go there BC.
              sprite

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              • Swannette
                Regular in the Side
                • Jan 2003
                • 832

                Originally posted by Swanny40519
                If Lloyd gets in the Swans best I will delete my membership card. This effort is utter crap.
                Oh dear, does this declaration include the AFL site ratings? He's there, again. Got me puzzled


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                Patterns emerge, but do they mean anything? No.

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                • mcs
                  Travelling Swannie!!
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 8177

                  Originally posted by The Big Cat
                  He more often than not butchers the ball. The thing that annoys me the most about him is the way he runs past and calls for a handpass from a bloke who is a better kick and decision maker than him. (i.e. most of the team)
                  Everybody butchered the ball to be fair today - our disposal efficiency was just woeful.
                  "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                  • SwanSand
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Aug 2020
                    • 529

                    Originally posted by mcs
                    I thought today showed just how broken the holding the ball rule is in its current implementation. If the rules were properly applied, I reckon there would have been about 25 more free kicks in that game. The amount of times Gold Coast got away with HTB/Incorrect Disposal was mind boggling. Didn't have any impact on the contest as we didn't turn up, but the umpiring today was truly woeful.
                    The game has changed from round 1 to now. All other teams seem to have adapted well and we are struggling with poor decision making under pressure in a contest. Once confidence goes that kick which was easy now becomes much more difficult mentally.
                    But wow this is why you need the experience. But look at lukosius and Noah Anderson.

                    Our connection from inside to outside is broken and now the middle to forward is broken.

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                    • waswan
                      Senior Player
                      • Oct 2015
                      • 2047

                      Thry came to play we didnt, we also had terrible skills when we did have space.

                      Bad on the inside poor in the outside. Thats why we looked terrible

                      Then...... injuries didnt help, Rowy is best 18 when fit, he wasnt fit.

                      Hard to bag a defender but Harry ordinary, probably undersized.

                      Lloyd doesnt defend so no surprise there but disposal was terrible.

                      We have injuries so its hard to know who to pick but in full health id like to see others before McKinerney and Harry, he is a toiler but had a solid ceiling.

                      Warner did a great job tagging but he is are only chance of breaking a line in the midfiled so id make someone else tag.

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                      • mcs
                        Travelling Swannie!!
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 8177

                        Originally posted by waswan
                        Thry came to play we didnt, we also had terrible skills when we did have space.

                        Bad on the inside poor in the outside. Thats why we looked terrible

                        Then...... injuries didnt help, Rowy is best 18 when fit, he wasnt fit.

                        Hard to bag a defender but Harry ordinary, probably undersized.

                        Lloyd doesnt defend so no surprise there but disposal was terrible.

                        We have injuries so its hard to know who to pick but in full health id like to see others before McKinerney and Harry, he is a toiler but had a solid ceiling.

                        Warner did a great job tagging but he is are only chance of breaking a line in the midfiled so id make someone else tag.
                        Did a good job tagging after Miller had bolted halfway down the stright in the first quarter lol (though I assume it wasn't the original intent to provide a tag either).

                        Warner is excellent at breaking a line in midfield, but as he develops, I hope he can find an ability to know when he can take a split second longer and when he cant, so he can improve his disposal efficiency and reduce the turnovers. That is not meant to be a criticism - its a product of his style and how he plays. And it isn't such an issue when our pressure and performance more broadly is good and we can translate that into pressure around the ball across the park, but when the opposition is allowed to do what they please on the turnover, it can be costly. But he certainly wasn't the only one today guilty of soft turnovers.
                        "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                        • The Big Cat
                          On the veteran's list
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 2360

                          Horse said we needed to use Blakey for rotation purposes. But he said there were already two other sore boys in the forward line (I presume Papley and Heeney) so its no wonder the Suns just walked the ball out of there.

                          If you look at the Fantasy points column on the stats page, we had a couple of blokes off the chart and around half a dozen over 100. Plenty more in the 80s and 90s. Shows how much we butchered the ball.

                          Horse said good skills come off hardness around the ball and that was a problem today.
                          Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                          • waswan
                            Senior Player
                            • Oct 2015
                            • 2047

                            Originally posted by mcs
                            Did a good job tagging after Miller had bolted halfway down the stright in the first quarter lol (though I assume it wasn't the original intent to provide a tag either).

                            Warner is excellent at breaking a line in midfield, but as he develops, I hope he can find an ability to know when he can take a split second longer and when he cant, so he can improve his disposal efficiency and reduce the turnovers. That is not meant to be a criticism - its a product of his style and how he plays. And it isn't such an issue when our pressure and performance more broadly is good and we can translate that into pressure around the ball across the park, but when the opposition is allowed to do what they please on the turnover, it can be costly. But he certainly wasn't the only one today guilty of soft turnovers.
                            Im sure the tag came after qtr time when he was having a day out.

                            Kennedy and Parks get heaps of inside ball but neither break lines like Warner

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                            • caj23
                              Senior Player
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 2462

                              Originally posted by Blood Fever
                              Says the multi poster who comes alive when we have a poor game.
                              You thought today’s effort was acceptable then?

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                              • crackedactor 01
                                Regular in the Side
                                • Jun 2020
                                • 760

                                Originally posted by lwjoyner
                                I forgot to mention the umps. Chamberlain at least. Did not pay are mark to Mills on the boundary line but paid on to a suns player at 3 qtr time and he was able to kick a goal almost the same .
                                I noticed that one. Mills clearly took the mark while the Suns player looked to have dropped the mark. I also noticed a lot of chopping of the arms and head high hits and blocking in marking contests and not even one free kick was paid. But it did not cost us the match. We have our selves to blame.

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