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  • KTigers
    Senior Player
    • Apr 2012
    • 2499

    #76
    Has anyone else finished reading Brandon Jack's book yet? Thoughts?

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    • dimelb
      pr. dim-melb; m not f
      • Jun 2003
      • 6889

      #77
      Arrived in the post today. I'll get back to you ...
      He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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      • goswannies
        Senior Player
        • Sep 2007
        • 3048

        #78
        Originally posted by KTigers
        Has anyone else finished reading Brandon Jack's book yet? Thoughts?
        1/2 way through. Interesting that he started by saying he didn’t want ito really write a footy book, yet this has a lot of footy, while not necessarily being a footy book. It delves onto the psyche of what could likely be the majority of guys who get drafted - some success without having a lengthy career. So far I’ve seen a bare and honest account that has revealed a refreshing player’s perspective on some commonly known incidents. One thing that distinguishes this book from others is that, as BJ’s career was shorter, little of it was glossed over (so far) you get far more detail about a 28 game career + NEAFL, than you would from a 300+ game career where the book mainly contains career highlights. A little disjointed on occasions, but reads as though it is written by a writer (which BJ is) - not ghost written or poorly written, and this is all the more refreshing. Thus far it has been very reflective and introspective, seemingly very little of off the table. Can’t wait for the second half

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        • goswannies
          Senior Player
          • Sep 2007
          • 3048

          #79
          Crezza

          Originally posted by Sandridge
          A fantastic list goswannies! I have a few of those books but you certainly have the definitive collection!
          Relatively extensive perhaps, rather than definitive (more that I need to get yet!), but thank you, I have devoured and savoured every word I have read.

          Originally posted by Sandridge
          Could you please give a brief review of Daryn Cresswell's book? I've been a Swans supporter since the early 1960s and I class Cresswell as one of the best Swans players I've seen. Not in the class of Skilton, Bedford, Kelly, Goodes, Lockett, etc but still a fantastic player who produced when the pressure was on. Unfortunately, non-football related issues damaged his reputation.
          When I started reading 28, one of my first thoughts was back to Crezza. Daryn obviously had a long and decorated career with the Swans and this is well accounted in his book. But the well documented events after his playing days play out in this autobiography. An honest and at times confronting recount of his fall ... and further fall ... and his earnest attempt at redemption (in this eyes of his friends and loved ones and himself). Like BJ, Crezza is open about the non-footballing events that transpired, the impact it had on him and how he coped with one of the most challenging periods of his life - it gives the reader a first person, fly on the wall view of an environment (I’m trying to stay spoiler free by if you want more info just google him and it should be pretty obvious what I am referring to) that most of us could only imagine and we’d be fairly far from the truth.

          I have to be honest, there are few Swans books that I haven’t enjoyed, but the at times raw brutality and introspection in Crezza was revealing and refreshing. The non-football issues that you refer to are perhaps some of the most intriguing parts of this autobiography, Daryn doesn’t shirk his role in his plight & for this I give him credit, and he has worked hard at redemption ... for this I give him my admiration. A thoroughly enjoyable read.

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          • goswannies
            Senior Player
            • Sep 2007
            • 3048

            #80
            As I hit page 152 of BJ’s 28, I found it interesting that either Brandon or his editor had a lapse, misspelling his former captain’s name as Jarrod McVeigh.

            A very minor thing, but surprising to me given 1) how many checks books go through and 2) how long BJ spent in the same team as Macca

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            • Ruck'n'Roll
              Ego alta, ergo ictus
              • Nov 2003
              • 3990

              #81
              Originally posted by goswannies
              A very minor thing, but surprising to me given 1) how many checks books go through and 2) how long BJ spent in the same team as Macca
              Budetary constraints mean editorial standards aren't what they used to be.

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              • snajik
                Senior Player
                • Jan 2003
                • 1115

                #82
                Originally posted by Sandridge
                A fantastic list goswannies! I have a few of those books but you certainly have the definitive collection!

                Could you please give a brief review of Daryn Cresswell's book? I've been a Swans supporter since the early 1960s and I class Cresswell as one of the best Swans players I've seen. Not in the class of Skilton, Bedford, Kelly, Goodes, Lockett, etc but still a fantastic player who produced when the pressure was on. Unfortunately, non-football related issues damaged his reputation.
                Sandridge, if you are interested I reviewed this book for The Roar a number of years ago. I won't post the link, I feel I'm jinxed in that area, but if you wanted to do a search, go with: book review crezza from afl glory to prison and the long road to redemption the roar

                Not the briefest of reviews though. I thought this book was a great read. Much better than what you usually get from a sports bio / autobio.
                It's very hard to live in a studio apartment in San Jose with a man who's learning to play violin. That's what she told the police when she handed them the empty revolver.
                The Scarlatti Tilt - Richard Brautigan

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                • KTigers
                  Senior Player
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 2499

                  #83
                  Originally posted by goswannies
                  As I hit page 152 of BJ’s 28, I found it interesting that either Brandon or his editor had a lapse, misspelling his former captain’s name as Jarrod McVeigh.

                  A very minor thing, but surprising to me given 1) how many checks books go through and 2) how long BJ spent in the same team as Macca
                  In relation to McVeigh it was telling that BJ said he didn't have more than ten conversations with McVeigh in the entire time he was
                  at the club. But that will be more about McVeigh than BJ I'd say. Anyway I won't say anymore till others have finished the book.
                  I've long suspected the editing departments at publishing companies and newspapers aren't what they used to be. All part of the
                  relentless race to the bottom unfortunately.
                  Last edited by KTigers; 14 August 2021, 06:37 AM.

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                  • Sandridge
                    Outer wing, Lake Oval
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 2049

                    #84
                    A huge, huge, huge thanks to goswannies and snajik for your thoughts on Daryn Cresswell's book! (Found your review of the book in The Roar, snajik. I, too, thought it was Cressa, not Crezza, and I also occasionally noticed him crossing himself.)

                    Both of you talk about Cressa's honesty in detailing the troubles in his non-football life and the fact that his book is not just a "highlights package." On your recommendations, I have ordered the book and greatly look forward to reading it! Thanks both!

                    Although you wouldn't call him a star, Cresswell is one of my all-time favourite Swans because he was very tough, gave his all and could produce big plays when a big play was needed. He reminded me a lot of a player from the 80s, Greg Smith!

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                    • snajik
                      Senior Player
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 1115

                      #85
                      I've always been drawn to the Cortinas Sandridge. Those rugged blue collar types, not naturally gifted, but real fighters, proud to put on the red and white jumper, invariably one club players. Cressa is one of these. Other favourites along the way that fit this mould have been Brett Kirk, Kelly, Jude Bolton, Nick Smith, Rod Carter and Barry Round (though the latter two began their careers elsewhere). More dogged than flashy. Players that enjoy laying a strong tackle, often punching above their weight. In the current team I drift toward Fox, Rowbottom and Wicks, and it's hard to have this conversation without mentioning Parker and Kennedy. Invaluable.

                      Let us know what you think of the book. Greg Smith is a great comparison btw.
                      It's very hard to live in a studio apartment in San Jose with a man who's learning to play violin. That's what she told the police when she handed them the empty revolver.
                      The Scarlatti Tilt - Richard Brautigan

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                      • KTigers
                        Senior Player
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 2499

                        #86
                        Daryn Cresswell
                        244 Games
                        Ave Disp 22.95
                        Goals 208.159
                        Contested Possessions Ave 7.88
                        Clearances Ave 4.96

                        Luke Parker
                        232 Games
                        Ave Disp 23.37
                        Goals 175.116
                        Contested Possessions Ave 11.49
                        Clearances Ave 4.88

                        Obviously stats aren't everything, but this shows how good Cresswell was. And he played in the old lower possession era.
                        A total soldier for us for many years.
                        Last edited by KTigers; 14 August 2021, 12:42 PM.

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                        • Goal Sneak
                          Out of Bounds on the Full
                          • Jun 2006
                          • 653

                          #87
                          Originally posted by KTigers
                          Daryn Cresswell
                          244 Games
                          Ave Disp 22.95
                          Goals 208.159
                          Contested Possessions Ave 7.88
                          Clearances Ave 4.96

                          Luke Parker
                          232 Games
                          Ave Disp 23.37
                          Goals 175.116
                          Contested Possessions Ave 11.49
                          Clearances Ave 4.88

                          Obviously stats aren't everything, but this shows how good Cresswell was. And he played in the old lower possession era.
                          A total soldier for us for many years.
                          I always felt comfortable when Cressa got the ball. He consistently used the ball so well and took the right option more often than not.

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                          • Sandridge
                            Outer wing, Lake Oval
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 2049

                            #88
                            Originally posted by snajik
                            I've always been drawn to the Cortinas Sandridge. Those rugged blue collar types, not naturally gifted, but real fighters, proud to put on the red and white jumper, invariably one club players. Cressa is one of these. Other favourites along the way that fit this mould have been Brett Kirk, Kelly, Jude Bolton, Nick Smith, Rod Carter and Barry Round (though the latter two began their careers elsewhere). More dogged than flashy. Players that enjoy laying a strong tackle, often punching above their weight. In the current team I drift toward Fox, Rowbottom and Wicks, and it's hard to have this conversation without mentioning Parker and Kennedy. Invaluable.

                            Let us know what you think of the book. Greg Smith is a great comparison btw.
                            Love your list of "Cortinas" snajik! May I add Ricky Quade to the list, please?

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                            • i'm-uninformed2
                              Reefer Madness
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 4653

                              #89
                              Originally posted by KTigers
                              Daryn Cresswell
                              244 Games
                              Ave Disp 22.95
                              Goals 208.159
                              Contested Possessions Ave 7.88
                              Clearances Ave 4.96

                              Luke Parker
                              232 Games
                              Ave Disp 23.37
                              Goals 175.116
                              Contested Possessions Ave 11.49
                              Clearances Ave 4.88

                              Obviously stats aren't everything, but this shows how good Cresswell was. And he played in the old lower possession era.
                              A total soldier for us for many years.
                              He had a very high footy IQ and was named in the extended bench for the Swans team of the century for a reason
                              'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                              • Aprilbr
                                Senior Player
                                • Oct 2016
                                • 1803

                                #90
                                I will never forget that mark that Cresswell took late in the final against Hawthorn in 1996. I was lucky enough to be at the SCG that night and it was our first finals win since 1945.

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