Changes for Round 12 vs St Kilda

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  • Cosmic Wizard
    recruit me pretty please!
    • Sep 2005
    • 620

    Team List Changes for Round 12 vs St Kilda

    Hi boys and girls, here we go!

    Out:
    Le Chad: his defensive efforts were really poor; when we turn the ball over, he didn't man up. Was ball watching way far much.

    McLean: he must lead up to our midfielders: he can't take pack marks with good defenders hanging off him; leave him in the team, but we need more from him.

    In:
    Stephens; yes he did some ordinary things, like dropped marks, but he need the experience, especially against some weaker sides.

    Almaty: it now or never; why not play him against St Kilda or Hawthorn.
    doof-doof
  • Markwebbos
    Veterans List
    • Jul 2016
    • 7186

    #2
    Big question is whether Tom Hickey returns this week and how many rucks the Saints are playing.

    McLean has had a couple of down games might be good to replace him but could be Hickey that comes in.

    If Fox is right to play what happens to Brand?

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    • longmile
      Crumber
      • Apr 2011
      • 3366

      #3
      If Hickey or Naismith is fit:

      Out: McLean, Sinclair
      In: McDonald, Hickey/Naismith


      If Hickey/Naismith aren't:

      Out: Mclean
      In: Amarty


      Give Brand another game. However I do prefer Fox, but Brand looked good on the weekend. The other one I'd consider dropping would be Stephens.
      Last edited by longmile; 31 May 2021, 10:27 AM.

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      • Markwebbos
        Veterans List
        • Jul 2016
        • 7186

        #4
        I wondered about dropping Hewett for Fox?

        There’s clearly a pecking order in defence and Brand although the tallest / biggest is not playing on the most appropriately sized opponent.

        I can see why they left McCartin on McKay, I would have liked to see if Brand would have done any better?

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        • aardvark
          Veterans List
          • Mar 2010
          • 5685

          #5
          Stephens looked like a deer in the headlights. You can't teach courage.

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          • longmile
            Crumber
            • Apr 2011
            • 3366

            #6
            Originally posted by aardvark
            Stephens looked like a deer in the headlights. You can't teach courage.
            Who would you drop him for? The similar players in Gulden and Campbell are injured. There's no room for Clarke in our midfield at the moment. I'm not sold on Bell. I'd like to give Taylor another crack at it - while his disposal can be shoddy, he's shown he has zip, isn't afraid and can accumulate possessions - but I understand he's pretty fairly on the outer.

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            • TheBloods
              Suspended by the MRP
              • Feb 2020
              • 2047

              #7
              Stephens didnt take his chance bring Bell in

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              • Ludwig
                Veterans List
                • Apr 2007
                • 9359

                #8
                Stephens has yet to bring his VFL game to the seniors, but he hasn't had that many chances. It might be worth giving him a hard tagging role on Brad Hill, as it should play into Stephens' strengths and he should be able to match Hill for speed and endurance. Sometimes you have to take a hit to continue a player's development. I think he's finding the physicality of the game at AFL level challenging for his slight frame.

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                • Nico
                  Veterans List
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 11339

                  #9
                  Originally posted by aardvark
                  Stephens looked like a deer in the headlights. You can't teach courage.
                  Gee that's a well worded observation. There were a couple of times in close where he looked really timid, not wanting body contact. He dropped that absolute sitter defensive side of the centre circle. Back in the day the opposition supporters would have been yelling out, "footsteps".
                  http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                  • rb4x
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 968

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Ludwig
                    Stephens has yet to bring his VFL game to the seniors, but he hasn't had that many chances. It might be worth giving him a hard tagging role on Brad Hill, as it should play into Stephens' strengths and he should be able to match Hill for speed and endurance. Sometimes you have to take a hit to continue a player's development. I think he's finding the physicality of the game at AFL level challenging for his slight frame.
                    Would not want Stephens to play Brad Hill back into form. A tagger on Hill will need to be fast but also have some physicality to his game.

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                    • TheBloods
                      Suspended by the MRP
                      • Feb 2020
                      • 2047

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Cosmic Wizard
                      Out:
                      Le Chad: his defensive efforts were really poor; when we turn the ball over, he didn't man up. Was ball watching way far much.
                      You have to be joking

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                      • Markwebbos
                        Veterans List
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 7186

                        #12
                        Stephens did seem intimidated by impending physical contact a couple of times, but he did also seem to try to get stuck in on other occasions to make up for it.

                        I disagree you can’t teach “courage” / hardness. Lloyd used to be a very soft player once upon a time. He’s certainly found a tougher, more contested side to his game.

                        I think the best thing for both Stephens and Blakey is to give them an extended run in the ones and twos.

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                        • Markwebbos
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                          • Jul 2016
                          • 7186

                          #13
                          Also thought the Chad was important in our 4Q surge

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                          • aardvark
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                            • Mar 2010
                            • 5685

                            #14
                            Originally posted by longmile
                            Who would you drop him for?
                            If I was coaching I wouldn't drop him. I'd tell him this morning he's playing this weekend as an Inside mid and I expect better than I saw on Sunday. Time to throw him in from the deep end.

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                            • Rod_
                              Senior Player
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 1179

                              #15
                              Drop McClean? Agree he was quiet, however Why Jacob Weitering is clearly the AFL's best key defender could have been a reason? He need to learn how to play with Buddy and he won't get better if he is not playing..

                              Stephens needs to feel he is one of the team, and again needs to play to get better.

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