Changes for round 15 v Port Adelaide

[Blood Fever]

I think it was more than mentally switching off. I suspect that we were physically tired and if anything it showed that we needed this bye. Our squad is still relatively young. Like everyone on here, I was hoping that we'd win against the Hawks. Nonetheless, we've surpassed expectations up until this point. Time to rest, regroup and come back fired up for the second half of the season.

Agree. Hawks got to play us after we had 2 6 day breaks. Pretty sure the other sides coming off the bye played each other. Bad timing for us. Might be unavoidable but looks like poor fixturing, although maths not my strong suit.

[TheBloods]

Agree. Hawks got to play us after we had 2 6 day breaks. Pretty sure the other sides coming off the bye played each other. Bad timing for us. Might be unavoidable but looks like poor fixturing, although maths not my strong suit.

You are on the money , the entire thing was a rort

Who the @@@@ fixtures a team off two 6 day breaks against a team coming off the bye ? Total fix

and dont get me started on the green muppets

[Bangalore Swans]

Why would you drop Hewett ahead of Fox? Poor guy was dreadful- that kick out of bounds on the full was shocking!

However, I agree with your Ins.

As for Bangalore: players can get emotional when the umpiring is so inconsistent. Paps plays with a lot of emotion and does need to curb his tendency to question/ criticise umpires for the team’s benefit, but using your own logic, you would punish the team more if you drop him! Get real.

I’m dead set real. I can appreciate the emotion Papley plays with. Franklin plays with emotion as well. Franklin does not descend into umpire abuse when a decision goes against him.

I’m staggered that the majority of the Red and White community believes that it’s perfectly acceptable for Papley to abuse umpires and give away umpiring abuse free kicks. The logic being that umpires are the enemy and deserve whatever Papley dishes out.

I can accept free kicks being given away if someone is going for the ball or doesn’t execute a tackle properly. Umpire abuse free kicks I can’t tolerate because they hurt the team for no other reason than selfish petulance.

The coaching staff need to get this petulance out of Papley’s game. Papley behaviour towards officials is not improving.

Papley needs stronger consequences and a two week stint as the medical sub with the associated job around the boundary at the end of the game may refocus him.

I want Papley to stop worrying about what umpires are doing and focus on doing his job and being that amazing inspiring player that we all enjoy watching play the game.

[Meg]

Changes for round 15 v Port Adelaide

I can appreciate the emotion Papley plays with. Franklin plays with emotion as well. Franklin does not descend into umpire abuse when a decision goes against him.


I can accept free kicks being given away if someone is going for the ball or doesn’t execute a tackle properly. Umpire abuse free kicks I can’t tolerate because they hurt the team for no other reason than selfish petulance.

The coaching staff need to get this petulance out of Papley’s game.

I agree with those parts of your post that I have edited to leave in above. I think the comparison with Buddy is a good one: he shows his disagreement with an umpire’s decision by a look of surprise and a shake of the head - and then gets on with the game. Something I admire him for.

I hope the co-captains speak to Papley about this (as well as the coaching staff) because it costs the team as a whole.

But there is no chance Papley will be dropped for this ..... and I certainly don’t support that part of your posts.

[Blood Fever]

I agree with those parts of your post that I have edited to leave in above. I think the comparison with Buddy is a good one: he shows his disagreement with an umpire’s decision by a look of surprise and a shake of the head - and then gets on with the game. Something I admire him for.

I hope the co-captains speak to Papley about this (as well as the coaching staff) because it costs the team as a whole.

But there is no chance Papley will be dropped for this ..... and I certainly don’t support that part of your posts.

Why are we indulging this bogus identity?

[Agent 86]

Changes for round 15 v Port Adelaide

i’m staggered that the majority of the Red and White community believes that it’s perfectly acceptable for Papley to abuse umpires and give away umpiring abuse free kicks.

Papley needs stronger consequences and a two week stint as the medical sub with the associated job around the boundary at the end of the game may refocus

Okay , it’s not okay to lose your head against the umpires. It doesn’t get you anywhere. But Papley’s tantrum was not particularly outrageous and didn’t cost us anything in the scheme of things. Your call to drop him for that seems a bit excessive.

I was at the game. I don’t recall many times (in my 20+ years of paying to watch footy at this venue) when I’ve felt my team has been been on the end of a sequence of such poor decisions. As a paying customer of the game, I expect everyone to play by the rules - but also for the playing field to be even.

[Ralph Dawg]

I’m dead set real. I can appreciate the emotion Papley plays with. Franklin plays with emotion as well. Franklin does not descend into umpire abuse when a decision goes against him.

I’m staggered that the majority of the Red and White community believes that it’s perfectly acceptable for Papley to abuse umpires and give away umpiring abuse free kicks. The logic being that umpires are the enemy and deserve whatever Papley dishes out.

I can accept free kicks being given away if someone is going for the ball or doesn’t execute a tackle properly. Umpire abuse free kicks I can’t tolerate because they hurt the team for no other reason than selfish petulance.

The coaching staff need to get this petulance out of Papley’s game. Papley behaviour towards officials is not improving.

Papley needs stronger consequences and a two week stint as the medical sub with the associated job around the boundary at the end of the game may refocus him.

I want Papley to stop worrying about what umpires are doing and focus on doing his job and being that amazing inspiring player that we all enjoy watching play the game.

Paps can stay Paps. My 11yo son loves him, tries to play like him but is sensible enough to view his outbursts in the context of his passion and the importance of an AFL game (as opposed to his U11.5 match). As well, we discuss these issues and he knows how to behave with his umpires.

On the off chance he makes it to the AFL, I would condone him blowing up at Razor Ray and his biased mob.

[Captain]

My changes would be:

In: Stephens, Blakey, Brand
Out: Bell, Fox, Hayward (inj)

[Bexl]

My changes would be:

In: Stephens, Blakey, Brand
Out: Bell, Fox, Hayward (inj)

I think Warner is straight back in.


In Warner Gulden Brand
Out Bell Wicks Fox

Taylor sub again

[mcs]

My changes would be:

In: Stephens, Blakey, Brand
Out: Bell, Fox, Hayward (inj)

Warner will come in if fit I'd expect - and maybe we might see a suprise in one of the longer term younger injury guys getting up after the bye too. Definitely think Brand will come into the team (our achilles heel is being routinely exploited down back now).

Why are we indulging this bogus identity?

Amen to that.

[TheBloods]

I’m dead set real. I can appreciate the emotion Papley plays with. Franklin plays with emotion as well. Franklin does not descend into umpire abuse when a decision goes against him.

I’m staggered that the majority of the Red and White community believes that it’s perfectly acceptable for Papley to abuse umpires and give away umpiring abuse free kicks. The logic being that umpires are the enemy and deserve whatever Papley dishes out.

I can accept free kicks being given away if someone is going for the ball or doesn’t execute a tackle properly. Umpire abuse free kicks I can’t tolerate because they hurt the team for no other reason than selfish petulance.

The coaching staff need to get this petulance out of Papley’s game. Papley behaviour towards officials is not improving.

Papley needs stronger consequences and a two week stint as the medical sub with the associated job around the boundary at the end of the game may refocus him.

I want Papley to stop worrying about what umpires are doing and focus on doing his job and being that amazing inspiring player that we all enjoy watching play the game.

What a load of nonsense

I will take undiscipline because undisciplined means frustrated and frustrated means they give a you know what

The rest of the team could've done with that !

[Roadrunner]

My changes would be:

In: Stephens, Blakey, Brand
Out: Bell, Fox, Hayward (inj)

Ding Dong may not be the most talented, for sure. In a way I’m reminded of Kirky when he started- he was pretty ordinary if memory serves me correctly! So I would try him in a similar role and see how he goes. Otherwise there’s no obvious spot for him.

A question guys- when do you think we should play Gould to see if he can make it and also bring Ling in for a few games? Horse wants the best team each week but half the season is gone and I think we have exceeded expectations so the coaching staff have one eye on the finals. This is understandable but let’s face it, we are not good enough at this stage. Our defence is leaking goals and there isn’t sufficient rebound. This was highlighted against the Dawks who were able to bring the ball out of their backline with ease and kick to targets up forward, while we struggled to even clear the ball from our backline, let alone kick/handball to advantage. We have Pelican, Brand and Gould as talls as well as McCartin (who was down last 2 weeks) and we need to play 3 against most teams.

Coaches expect too much from Ramps.

[Blood Fever]

Ding Dong may not be the most talented, for sure. In a way I’m reminded of Kirky when he started- he was pretty ordinary if memory serves me correctly! So I would try him in a similar role and see how he goes. Otherwise there’s no obvious spot for him.

A question guys- when do you think we should play Gould to see if he can make it and also bring Ling in for a few games? Horse wants the best team each week but half the season is gone and I think we have exceeded expectations so the coaching staff have one eye on the finals. This is understandable but let’s face it, we are not good enough at this stage. Our defence is leaking goals and there isn’t sufficient rebound. This was highlighted against the Dawks who were able to bring the ball out of their backline with ease and kick to targets up forward, while we struggled to even clear the ball from our backline, let alone kick/handball to advantage. We have Pelican, Brand and Gould as talls as well as McCartin (who was down last 2 weeks) and we need to play 3 against most teams.

Coaches expect too much from Ramps.

We will still aim for finals- it's in the club's DNA. Understand your doubts about whether we belong there but the next 3 rounds will probably tell the tale. If we falter in the second half of the year, then others will.get games. If we win 11 games, we will have exceeded expectations by some margin. We were lucky to beat Cats and Saints so we could have been 6 and 7. Very fine line. Very even competition now except for a few top teams.

[Roadrunner]

We will still aim for finals- it's in the club's DNA. Understand your doubts about whether we belong there but the next 3 rounds will probably tell the tale. If we falter in the second half of the year, then others will.get games. If we win 11 games, we will have exceeded expectations by some margin. We were lucky to beat Cats and Saints so we could have been 6 and 7. Very fine line. Very even competition now except for a few top teams.

Agreed Blood Fever. Based on that, bring in Chad and Brand for Wicks and Fox. I’m assuming Hayward will be ok.

[Nico]

I would consider moving Mills back into the back line. We are clearly missing something back there. His reading of the play and stability are sorely missed. It's no coincidence that the back line fragility has happened since he has gone into the midfield.