Umpiring: the good, the bad and the ugly

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  • bennyfabulous
    Warming the Bench
    • Apr 2009
    • 351

    #46
    Originally posted by Goal Sneak
    I haven't seen any mention of the goal review which resulted in the original "touched off the boot" call from the field umpire being overruled.

    Mills had said he touched it, even "Zaccy" gestured to his teammates that it was touched. Watching the replays, there was no definitive evidence that suggested that they should overturn the decision, yet they did.

    I haven't seen the video umpire do this before, did I miss something?
    NO YOU DIDNT! Ridiculous!

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    • Markwebbos
      Veterans List
      • Jul 2016
      • 7186

      #47
      Interesting comment from Barrett this morning:

      IF ... the Bulldogs got a very nice run from the umpires in the 2016 finals series, and just ask John Longmire for his thoughts on that year's Grand Final ...
      THEN ... they're off to a flyer again in the 2021 series. Regardless, they absolutely belted the Bombers in Launceston, and looked to have returned to being the Dogs of rounds one to 20.

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      • barry
        Veterans List
        • Jan 2003
        • 8499

        #48
        Im really starting to like Damien Barrett.

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        • mcs
          Travelling Swannie!!
          • Jul 2007
          • 8168

          #49
          Very interesting indeed.

          I suspect his views in private may be very different to his publicly expressed views.
          "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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          • Nico
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 11339

            #50
            I suspect all but Bulldogs supporters will be dissecting all Bulldogs frees tomorrow, and the number of throws that don't get penalised.
            http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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            • i'm-uninformed2
              Reefer Madness
              • Oct 2003
              • 4653

              #51
              Originally posted by mcs
              Very interesting indeed.

              I suspect his views in private may be very different to his publicly expressed views.
              I have a friend who is at the Swans. I deliberately don't ask him about all things inside Swans, as he's a friend, and I don't want to exploit that. So, for example, I have no clue as to our cap, position on contracts, etc.

              But the one thing - five years on - he will consistently raise, unprompted, is the umpiring from that grand final. And let's just say, it is a deeply, deeply uncharitable view that I suspect everyone from the coach to the players to the boot studder holds, involves endless cussing and a stunned amazement that the Dogs still get away with their style of play to this day.

              If we're playing the Dogs, or they are on a big Friday night game he knows I'll be watching, trust me - he's usually first to fling off the potty-mouthed text about their 'handballs' and free kick counts.
              'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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              • Sandridge
                Outer wing, Lake Oval
                • Apr 2010
                • 2083

                #52
                Originally posted by Markwebbos
                Interesting comment from Barrett this morning:

                IF ... the Bulldogs got a very nice run from the umpires in the 2016 finals series, and just ask John Longmire for his thoughts on that year's Grand Final ...
                THEN ... they're off to a flyer again in the 2021 series. Regardless, they absolutely belted the Bombers in Launceston, and looked to have returned to being the Dogs of rounds one to 20.
                And it's not the first time he has referenced the 2016 Grand Final in his Sliding Doors pieces. He obviously believes we were well and truly shafted in that game.

                The Bulldogs were too good for Essendon last week but the 4 goals Weightman got from free kicks were astounding. I could see how one was possibly a free - the other 3 were laughable.

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                • Markwebbos
                  Veterans List
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 7186

                  #53
                  Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
                  I have a friend who is at the Swans. I deliberately don't ask him about all things inside Swans, as he's a friend, and I don't want to exploit that. So, for example, I have no clue as to our cap, position on contracts, etc.

                  But the one thing - five years on - he will consistently raise, unprompted, is the umpiring from that grand final. And let's just say, it is a deeply, deeply uncharitable view that I suspect everyone from the coach to the players to the boot studder holds, involves endless cussing and a stunned amazement that the Dogs still get away with their style of play to this day.

                  If we're playing the Dogs, or they are on a big Friday night game he knows I'll be watching, trust me - he's usually first to fling off the potty-mouthed text about their 'handballs' and free kick counts.
                  Wow, I had no idea!

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                  • sprite
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 813

                    #54
                    A friend of mine is an Essendon supporter and I was reading his posts on FB after the game on the weekend. There were plenty of comments and agreement that Foostcray get a charitable/unbelievable run with freekicks from the umpires.

                    So it isn't just us, that has problems when playing them.
                    sprite

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                    • mcs
                      Travelling Swannie!!
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 8168

                      #55
                      Originally posted by sprite
                      A friend of mine is an Essendon supporter and I was reading his posts on FB after the game on the weekend. There were plenty of comments and agreement that Foostcray get a charitable/unbelievable run with freekicks from the umpires.

                      So it isn't just us, that has problems when playing them.
                      I find injector fans a little hard to take seriously at times because they see almost everyone in the whole wide world is 'out there to get them'. But on this one they are spot on.

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                      Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
                      I have a friend who is at the Swans. I deliberately don't ask him about all things inside Swans, as he's a friend, and I don't want to exploit that. So, for example, I have no clue as to our cap, position on contracts, etc.

                      But the one thing - five years on - he will consistently raise, unprompted, is the umpiring from that grand final. And let's just say, it is a deeply, deeply uncharitable view that I suspect everyone from the coach to the players to the boot studder holds, involves endless cussing and a stunned amazement that the Dogs still get away with their style of play to this day.

                      If we're playing the Dogs, or they are on a big Friday night game he knows I'll be watching, trust me - he's usually first to fling off the potty-mouthed text about their 'handballs' and free kick counts.
                      You fancy it may all boil over at some stage if we were to meet them again in a big final - watch out for serious fireworks should that happen in the next couple of years or so.
                      "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                      • barry
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 8499

                        #56
                        We've had plenty of chances to even up, and done nothing.
                        Bulldogs are just a team to avoid in finals. I thought wed be safe this year as they were on the other side of the draw, with the only possible meeting being the GF...and fellow umpire darlings Essendon would beat them.

                        Even essendons umpire love was not powerful enough.

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                        • Markwebbos
                          Veterans List
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 7186

                          #57
                          If you want your head to explode with rage then I can heartily recommend this article from the Mongrel Punt.

                          The Alex Docherty Column - "Free Kick Bulldogs" is a Myth - The Mongrel Punt

                          Written by a dogs supporter no less.

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                          • mcs
                            Travelling Swannie!!
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 8168

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Markwebbos
                            If you want your head to explode with rage then I can heartily recommend this article from the Mongrel Punt.

                            The Alex Docherty Column - "Free Kick Bulldogs" is a Myth - The Mongrel Punt

                            Written by a dogs supporter no less.
                            I just laughed when I read that earlier today.

                            The Mongrel Punt has a great variety of material, and one of the best footy websites out there. But letting a resident fairypup fan write about free kick Bulldogs is not going to win you too many friends in the broader footy community haha!
                            "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                            • Markwebbos
                              Veterans List
                              • Jul 2016
                              • 7186

                              #59
                              Originally posted by mcs
                              I just laughed when I read that earlier today.

                              The Mongrel Punt has a great variety of material, and one of the best footy websites out there. But letting a resident fairypup fan write about free kick Bulldogs is not going to win you too many friends in the broader footy community haha!
                              It was this that got my blood boiling: “The Bulldogs’ 2016 premiership was based on a handball-happy style of movement and that drew the ire of many people … There are still Sydney fans still on their high horse about the game itself, and like many other games before that one, it had poor decisions go both ways.”

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                              • mcs
                                Travelling Swannie!!
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 8168

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Markwebbos
                                It was this that got my blood boiling: “The Bulldogs’ 2016 premiership was based on a handball-happy style of movement and that drew the ire of many people … There are still Sydney fans still on their high horse about the game itself, and like many other games before that one, it had poor decisions go both ways.”
                                If nothing else, the fairypuppies will always try and convince that somehow they are 'hard done by' lol!

                                I'm not sure in any universe that these 2 conditions can co-exist at the same time.
                                1) A game had 'poor decisions both ways': but
                                2) One team was so disciplined, so good, so amazing, that they didn't concede a free kick in 3 quarters of footy.

                                And that's before one takes into account the nature of the contest on that day.
                                Last edited by mcs; 8 September 2021, 08:20 PM.
                                "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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