R21 V St Kilda at Marvel Stadium

[Bangalore Swans]

Your comments on Papley were a point of view or opinion that many of us probably agreed with.
Not trolling simply a comment
Any discussion on Nick or for that matter any other player never reached the obsessive vitriol your running mate chooses to apply with James
I would argue that it is not simply an opinion comment or feedback but the very definition of trolling.

I think that everyone is very heightened by this hideous COVID situation. In my own residence we refer to heightened emotions as a COVID meltdown.

I believe on Red and White that everyone is more emotionally heightened than their normal selves. This causes each of us to have a shorter fuse than what would normally be the case.

We want the Swans to do well because it’s a lot of peoples escape from difficult situations. When the Swans fall short that can cause some amongst us to have heightened emotions and responses.

All posters on here love the same football team and desperately want them to do well. We can all put our differences aside and all share in a mutual admiration for this football club.

[dejavoodoo44]

I think that everyone is very heightened by this hideous COVID situation. In my own residence we refer to heightened emotions as a COVID meltdown.

I believe on Red and White that everyone is more emotionally heightened than their normal selves. This causes each of us to have a shorter fuse than what would normally be the case.

We want the Swans to do well because it’s a lot of peoples escape from difficult situations. When the Swans fall short that can cause some amongst us to have heightened emotions and responses.

All posters on here love the same football team and desperately want them to do well. We can all put our differences aside and all share in a mutual admiration for this football club.

Personally, I seem to recall the odd instance of trolling, prior to covid hitting?

[SwanSand]

Game done and dusted. No team this year has been up for more than a few weeks. We have a habit of losing against some pretty ordinary teams but I always thought Essendon and St Kilda had the tools to beat us. Essendon failed, St. Kilda succeeded as they played more defensive structure than Essendon. They blocked the corridor, we did not get the spread, we were not working collectively to create the space and did not have the same energy as the last 5 weeks. I actually think we would be benefited by this loss. It would keep us sharp come finals time.

Maybe this has to do with the families joining the team back and players not having the same focus or maybe it is a combination of factors including being through exhausting 5 weeks. Also I thought some of our players played in unusual positions and probably lost a bit of that usual up and about nature in this game.

I would be worried about 2 things though
1. Somehow the marks we gave in the defensive half were more than we would normally give, it means that either they worked harder in their forward 50 or the entries were too fast for us to respond or a combination of the two.
2. We get a little bit stuck when we cannot go through the corridor, somehow, the plan B was not as visible as I thought we should have. Again nothing alarming as the work rate in this particular game was not as good as a result we did not find good enough avenues to move the ball forward as in previous games.

However this means that come finals time, we may struggle against teams who are as disciplined as St. Kilda were and all the other teams in 7/8 are capable to worry us. It is going to be a fascinating next 2 weeks to see where we finish and changes that the coaches will make to keep us focussed with a good plan.

[royboy42]

I think that everyone is very heightened by this hideous COVID situation. In my own residence we refer to heightened emotions as a COVID meltdown.

I believe on Red and White that everyone is more emotionally heightened than their normal selves. This causes each of us to have a shorter fuse than what would normally be the case.

We want the Swans to do well because it’s a lot of peoples escape from difficult situations. When the Swans fall short that can cause some amongst us to have heightened emotions and responses.

All posters on here love the same football team and desperately want them to do well. We can all put our differences aside and all share in a mutual admiration for this football club.

Self aggrandising nonsense.

[goswannies]

1) this year most of our losses have been against bottom 8 sides; most of our wins and better close losses have been against top 8 sides. Fortunately, come finals time, we play against top 8 sides.

2) we had 5 straight wins coming into this games. But every consecutive win is one game closer to the next loss. It’s going to happen.

3) we are playing on the road. Every week. And sometimes not even knowing which state we are playing in until the day before. It will likely take its toll (tho playing away from the SCG might not be a bad thing given our form there, the lack of routine isn’t great)

4) we were considered a very young, inexperienced side at the start of the season. The boys are more experienced 21 rounds in, but they are still young.

5) the Saints were desperately playing for a chance at finals. We have a “home” elimination final in the bag and had a chance at top 4 if things fell out way. The stakes were possibly higher for the Saints, and perhaps their intensity reflected it (not a good reason, but perhaps not unrealistic)

6) Mills late withdrawal probably not helpful

2 games to go until finals. Happy to put this little speed bump behind us, enjoy what has been a season that might have exceeded expectations prior to round 1 and look forward to see what our group can deliver in September. Go Swannies!!

[goswannies]

Papley charged

The AFL advises the Match Review of the Saturday games of Round 21 has been completed and Swans forward Tom Papley has been charged.

Charges laid:

Tom Papley, Sydney Swans, has been charged with Striking Bradley Hill, during the fourth quarter of the Round 21 match between St Kilda and the Sydney Swans, played at Marvel Stadium on Saturday, August 7, 2021.

In summary, he can accept a $2000 sanction with an early plea.
Based on the available evidence, the incident was assessed as Careless Conduct, Low Impact, Body Contact. The incident was classified as a $3000 sanction as a first offence. The player can accept a $2000 sanction with an early plea.

[barry]

2) we had 5 straight wins coming into this games. But every consecutive win is one game closer to the next loss. It’s going to happen.

Actually, statistically, every consecutive win puts you further away from the next loss. But carry on.
(Because winning means you are a better team, and therefore more likely to win your next game)

[goswannies]

Actually, statistically, every consecutive win puts you further away from the next loss. But carry on.
(Because winning means you are a better team, and therefore more likely to win your next game)

Actually, statistically, every consecutive win puts you further away from the previous loss. But carry on.

[KTigers]

Barry, goswannies... what on earth are you talking about?... are you blokes drinking already? But I suppose it's past midday now. Carry on.

[Kafka's Ghost]

Not a bad review from The Mongrel Punt. It gives Parker his due and wonders about “the disappearance” of a couple of others, previously mentioned on this thread.

St Kilda v Sydney - The Good, Bad and Ugly - The Mongrel Punt

[barry]

Actually, statistically, every consecutive win puts you further away from the previous loss. But carry on.

Both previous and future losses.

[barry]

Barry, goswannies... what on earth are you talking about?... are you blokes drinking already? But I suppose it's past midday now. Carry on.

Example.
Let say round 1 next year we play GWS and it's 50/50 at the TAB. And in round 2 we play WC and it's a 50/50 at the TAB. (2 team around us on current ladder)
If we beat GWS well, we would go into the WC game as better price favourites. Odd might change to 60/40 our way. A win has moved us further away (less likely) from a loss.

[KTigers]

Example.
Let say round 1 next year we play GWS and it's 50/50 at the TAB. And in round 2 we play WC and it's a 50/50 at the TAB. (2 team around us on current ladder)
If we beat GWS well, we would go into the WC game as better price favourites. Odd might change to 60/40 our way. A win has moved us further away (less likely) from a loss.

I think a win in Game 1 in your scenario will move us further away from the expectation of a loss in Game 2.

[Ludwig]

I think a win in Game 1 in your scenario will move us further away from the expectation of a loss in Game 2.

Using the betting companies as the arbiters of winning probability, it's fair to say, and I think Barry is saying this, a win in the most recent game will improve the odds, i.e. probability, of winning the next game, while losing the most recent game reduces the probability of winning the next game.

[barry]

Using the betting companies as the arbiters of winning probability, it's fair to say, and I think Barry is saying this, a win in the most recent game will improve the odds, i.e. probability, of winning the next game, while losing the most recent game reduces the probability of winning the next game.

Tots. The betting companies are very good as arbiters of winning probablity because if they werent, they'd go broke.