Round 22: the other games. Have the elimination finals started?

[KSAS]

I do feel sorry for Teague. Tough initiation coaching in 2 covid ravaged seasons. Even though club has hardly progressed in his short tenure, those who appointed him should also take the fall should the axe fall. Think they had too high expectations for this season. They were allured with the Teague train when as caretaker, same as Rhyce at Norf. Looks like Roos is the exception successfully graduating from caretaker to premier coach.

[i'm-uninformed2]

Carlton are a bad joke. They will have sacked four coaches in a decade.

Maybe, just maybe, the problem starts with a board that makes these decisions, the inability to structure a good footy program that can support the coach(es), the obvious deficiency in developing players, the dreadful recruitment and list management, and overall ordinariness of everything to do with that footy club.

I saw the outgoing chair tick off a list of achievements - debt reduction, profitability, membership numbers, etc. Fine. But not a single one of them, even according to him, related to footy.

David Teague may or may not be able to coach; but how would you honestly know?

[barry]

You're being very kind to Teague. Their list is not too bad. Its the game plan that kills them.

However, if they sack Teague this week, GWS will need to be very careful.

[dimelb]

sertongs goal may have been good. But did you all notice the non call by the boundary umpire just before it. player and ball were miles over the line. shows all umpires are bad.

I saw that and was peeved. Fortunately not all umps are bad!

[i'm-uninformed2]

You're being very kind to Teague. Their list is not too bad. Its the game plan that kills them.

However, if they sack Teague this week, GWS will need to be very careful.

Don't disagree that they have a bad game plan.

I think my point was this was the board that sacked a promising coach in Ratten, who'd made finals. Then they made a bad call thinking Malthouse's best days were still ahead of him. Then they whiplashed to Bolton and gave him no support. Then they rushed a process to appoint Teague based on the false illusion of a 'fresh voice' response from the players.

Meanwhile, they can't develop high draft picks (think Dow, O'Brien, SPS, etc etc). They made a mammoth blue on McGovern. Saad has been ok, but Martin and Williams have been very underwhelming.

Above all, though - what is their footy direction and plan? I have no idea. I don't think they do either.

[Markwebbos]

There was an interesting piece on The Mongrel Punt laying the blame squarely with the players

The Next Victim? - The Mongrel Punt

The way the players checked out against Port this week was a disgrace, and indicative of the culture that has become the driver of the Carlton Football Club over the past 21 years... Whether it was Denis Pagan being pushed into weekly debriefs with the father of a player after games, Mick Malthouse’s demands on his senior players becoming a little too much for some of their leaders to handle ...

[Sandridge]

There was an interesting piece on The Mongrel Punt laying the blame squarely with the players

The Next Victim? - The Mongrel Punt

The way the players checked out against Port this week was a disgrace, and indicative of the culture that has become the driver of the Carlton Football Club over the past 21 years... Whether it was Denis Pagan being pushed into weekly debriefs with the father of a player after games, Mick Malthouse’s demands on his senior players becoming a little too much for some of their leaders to handle ...

Wow! That article is vicious! Makes you wonder if the author is a disillusioned Carlton supporter who's "had enough" of the what's happened at the club.

As someone old enough to remember Carlton's attitude towards us in the early 90s, I say, long may the Blues' era of failure continue!

[Buzz13]

Ideal scenario would be for Eagles to beat Lions and one of either GWS or Essendon to lose which would have us playing West Coast 5 v 8

[mcs]

Wow! That article is vicious! Makes you wonder if the author is a disillusioned Carlton supporter who's "had enough" of the what's happened at the club.

As someone old enough to remember Carlton's attitude towards us in the early 90s, I say, long may the Blues' era of failure continue!

Totally agree. Lets hope this conversation of ongoing Blues failure is still going in 2121, 100 years from now. They can rot for all I care.

[barry]

Ideal scenario would be for Eagles to beat Lions and one of either GWS or Essendon to lose which would have us playing West Coast 5 v 8

What if all the finals are in WA?

[707]

Final 8 is now set, GWS our match up first week. We owe them a payback!

[KTigers]

What if all the finals are in WA?

It will be a dark time for football, our country and the future of the planet.

[Markwebbos]

I’m hoping they’ll schedule our game on Saturday and GWS Sunday to give us a day’s extra rest in place of a home final.

Where do we want to play the Giants. I would say Kardinia Park but the Giants play that ground as well as we do.

[barry]

It would be pig headed madness if they played the finals to empty stadiums in Vic. Move the lot to WA. Assuming WC don't make it, every game will be neutral venue. Fairest finals ever.

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5,000 fans at Optus > no fans at GMHBA

[Buzz13]

What if all the finals are in WA?

Well that would change it haha. But I heard it would be played in Adelaide if that was the case.