Finals Week 1; the other games. Tasmania, home of football!

[Bangalore Swans]

What I’ll never understand about Gary Rohan and chicks is he’s a ranga. I mean, what’s the attraction?

Come on. Don’t do that. I don’t think we have walked in Gary’s shoes. Let’s not judge him.

[Blood Fever]

That’s what old people do.

Last 20 finals with C.Scott in charge- 6 wins 14 losses. Not a peep out of Melbourne media. Protected species.

[mcs]

We are talking about Gary.

He’s been through circumstance that I can’t comprehend the pain. You are a good man MCS. Imagine his pain and imagine what that can do to a person. Empathy!!!

How many times do I not need to politely suggest without saying to @@@@ off, before I simply have to say - @@@@ off!

You can bleat till the cows come home, and all one has to say is - his first wife was in exactly the same circumstances. She went through all the same pain as him, yet he chose to do what he chose to do. Imagine what the pain and suffering did to her - and then to have that on top.

But hey, he is the one that deserves empathy.......

[dejavoodoo44]

I've been stuck in a world all year where I've never thought Port have looked amazing or unbeatable (i.e. putting on the performance of a premiership team). But maybe they'll peak at the right time - as you say some of their ball movement could have been a lot better, and geelong played right into their hands in the first half. But with a home prelim to come (well maybe a home prelim - who knows), you'd have to fancy them to be there on the final day more likely than not.

Yes, I usually find it hard to take them seriously as a premiership threat. Possibly because of that period prior to 2004, when the finals monkey on their back became a gorilla. Maybe it's the later Hinckley era, where their game plan seemed to break down in finals. But this year, they appear to be made of sterner stuff.

[mcs]

Last 20 finals with C.Scott in charge- 6 wins 14 losses. Not a peep out of Melbourne media. Protected species.

Amazing he hasn't got half the criticism he really should have about that.

He's had a stellar list for so much of that, yet choked so many times in finals with them. Really doesn't know how to get 'em to peak when they need to.

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Yes, I usually find it hard to take them seriously as a premiership threat. Possibly because of that period prior to 2004, when the finals monkey on their back became a gorilla. Maybe it's the later Hinckley era, where their game plan seemed to break down in finals. But this year, they appear to be made of sterner stuff.

Still not convinced they don't have a stinker in them come Prelim or Grand Final, but they can't get a better tilt almost to a premiership than this year. Two home finals, and at worst (barring a MCG miracle) a grand final at a ground that is neutral for both teams, with no chance of 'quasi home ground' for any Melbourne based team.

If teams keep playing to their strengths like the old people's home mob did tonight though, they will win the flag. I think Melbourne or Brisbane are not quite that stupid however, and fancy we could really trouble them too (yes they beat us earlier in the season, but we were well in that game all day long too, and for a reasonable part of it, found a way to stay away from playing to their strengths).

[0918330512]

a member of the football staff he probably should have thought twice about before getting it on with them - tick. That was as far as my analysis was going - not the actual occupation

Fair call, unless you’re BS, in which case unfair call

[mcs]

Fair call, unless you’re BS, in which case unfair call

But of course you were right with the big difference between a trainer and a physio as an occupation! An important correction to make

[Bangalore Swans]

How many times do I not need to politely suggest without saying to @@@@ off, before I simply have to say - @@@@ off!

You can bleat till the cows come home, and all one has to say is - his first wife was in exactly the same circumstances. She went through all the same pain as him, yet he chose to do what he chose to do. Imagine what the pain and suffering did to her - and then to have that on top.

But hey, he is the one that deserves empathy.......

In the words of Tom Cruise “MCS, put your manners back in.

The Rohan story is very complex for all parties. MCS, if you have a personal connection to the parties say so and I’ll apologise and back down.

[barry]

I'm so glad Rohan doesn't play for us anymore. I'd be livid if I was a Geelong supporter.

[mcs]

In the words of Tom Cruise “MCS, put your manners back in.

The Rohan story is very complex for all parties. MCS, if you have a personal connection to the parties say so and I’ll apologise and back down.

I am fully entitled to feel zero empathy for him, and its a perfectly rational and logical position to take, as I outlined.

Likewise, even though i think its highly irrational, if you want to show empathy for people such as Rohan and Carey, go for your life. Just drop the preaching and trying to tell others how they should think. Its nauseating to say the least - you are not the one from 'up high' who knows better than anyone else.

I will disagree till the cows come home and argue against it, but nowhere will I say you are not entitled to hold whatever opinion you want. So why dont you start doing the same and recognise that your world view is not the 'absolute' and there is no need for you to try and talk everyone around to it.

[0918330512]

How dare you. Unless you have been through what Rohan had been through, you can’t judge.

We don’t know what Gary was going through in 2020. Easy to judge Gary from the easy lenses of thriving middle class families which is what most Swans fans fall into.

Have some empathy and apologie at once.

WTAF?! How dare I state that it was the club physio (as I seem to recall it was)??

I dare, Sir, I dare! If it defends the virtues of the innocent trainers.

Nor did my statement judge Gary in any way. It was a correcting statement of fact that was in no way judging of the actions of any party.

Your only correct statement was that I cannot imagine what it’s like to lose a child. I cannot imagine what it’s like to be released from a Club. I cannot imagine what it’s like to have my marriage breakdown for whatever the reason and have it played out in the public eye. I cannot imagine what it’s like to start a new relationship while my ex- publicly disparages my actions.

However, I simply cannot fathom how you extrapolated any of that from my post of Wasn’t it the club physio?

So who do you want me to apologise to? Gary? I’m not sure what for (based on my original comment) … how about this … Sorry Gary for stating that it was a physio and not a trainer. Or am I apologising to the physio … sorry physio for … umm I’m really not sure what for, but I’m glad the WAGS have welcomed you back into the fold to watch Gary’s games with his kids (as was well publicised). Or am I apologising to you? Sorry BS for inciting a BS retort from you, funny little fellow

[mcs]

WTAF?! How dare I state that it was the club physio (as I seem to recall it was)??

I dare, Sir, I dare! If it defends the virtues of the innocent trainers.

Nor did my statement judge Gary in any way. It was a correcting statement of fact that was in no way judging of the actions of any party.

Your only correct statement was that I cannot imagine what it’s like to lose a child. I cannot imagine what it’s like to be released from a Club. I cannot imagine what it’s like to have my marriage breakdown for whatever the reason and have it played out in the public eye. I cannot imagine what it’s like to start a new relationship while my ex- publicly disparages my actions.

However, I simply cannot fathom how you extrapolated any of that from my post of Wasn’t it the club physio?

So who do you want me to apologise to? Gary? I’m not sure what for (based on my original comment) … how about this … Sorry Gary for stating that it was a physio and not a trainer. Or am I apologising to the physio … sorry physio for … umm I’m really not sure what for, but I’m glad the WAGS have welcomed you back into the fold to watch Gary’s games with his kids (as was well publicised). Or am I apologising to you? Sorry BS for inciting a BS retort from you, funny little fellow

I'm pretty sure it was a misdirected rant mate aimed at me, not you, just with the wrong quote included! BS has had a few scotches you see..... perhaps he needs to have a few more.....

[Bangalore Swans]

I dont want your apology BS, shove it where the sun doesn't shine.

I am fully entitled to feel zero empathy for him, and its a perfectly rational and logical position to take, as I outlined.

Likewise, even though i think its highly irrational, if you want to show empathy for people such as Rohan and Carey, go for your life. Just drop the preaching and trying to tell others how they should think. Its nauseating to say the least.

It’s not about you apologising.

It’s about me apologising to you if you have a dircect connection to the Rohan story. I’m making a moral judgment to show empathy to the man.

If you have a personal connection to the Rohan story I will apologise to you and stand down.

I personally don’t have a connection to the Rohan story.

[0918330512]

I'm pretty sure it was a misdirected rant mate aimed at me, not you, just with the wrong quote included! BS has had a few scotches you see..... perhaps he needs to have a few more.....

Oh that clears it up. Then scratch all those other apologies and replace them with “I’m sorry to have got entangled in your little spat mcs”. Caveated with I’m not judging Gary, the physio, any of Gary’s family … or his pets just for good measure … or mcs

[mcs]

It’s not about you apologising.

It’s about me apologising to you if you have a dircect connection to the Rohan story. I’m making a moral judgment to show empathy to the man.

If you have a personal connection to the Rohan story I will apologise to you and stand down.

I personally don’t have a connection to the Rohan story.

What does having a personal connection to anything have to do with it?? I have zero connection to the story, but my opinion is more than enough of the facts of the story are publicly known to allow any person to form their reasonable opinion of it.

Your opinion is that he deserves empathy. Mine is that he, nor Carey, deserve any.

The difference is nowhere have I tried to preach to suggest that one view or the other is wrong.

I will disagree with your position, and argue against it - but I've never said its wrong. Your the one that always thinks your view is the 'correct' one, and its your mission to somehow convert others to your thinking.

Drop that attitude more broadly, and you'll find far less pushback on most of your posts. You are just another random username on the internet, not a higher being.