General off-season footy chat

[i'm-uninformed2]

AFL said no further action.

Of course they did . . .

What I hope happens from here of course is every time a player or official from the Bulldogs fronts the media for the next month they get peppered with questions about their frothy-mouthed coach and asked if they are the leaker, or if they know who the leaker is, or it worries them that there is a leaker.

[aardvark]

Tom Morris now sacked.

[Industrial Fan]

The irony of him being brought down by a leak is off the charts. You reap what you sow.

[i'm-uninformed2]

The irony of him being brought down by a leak is off the charts. You reap what you sow.

Or just about his final words in public being "Fox backs me".

[wolftone57]

You reckon that's a mix of misogyny and homophobia? It's cringeworthy, sure, but I wouldn't use either of those terms to describe it. Doing so, IMO, detracts from criticism of comments that really are homophobic or misogynistic. I guess the context in which the comment was made matters. If he was on the phone to a mate and made those comments, he needs to find new mates (ie not those who tape and release private conversations) but I guess we all make comments about the opposite sex (or same sex) in private that aren't too different. If the comment was made in a professional context that's a different matter. For it is certainly an unprofessional comment and the crassness of it multiplies.

Regardless of that comment and any fall out, I don't think it mitigates or explains or excuses Beveridge's outburst. The original story from Morris was pretty lame. Not something worth getting as excited about as he did on Monday, but a minor story nonetheless. It appears to have been factually correct and I don't see the malice in it that Beveridge seemed to see. If Beveridge is going to get that worked up about such a trivial matter, let's hope for his and his club's sake that there aren't any meaningful stories about the Dogs worth breaking this season. Not sure how he will cope.

He also has form for getting aggressive towards journalists, to extents that far exceed the substance of what they have said. Sure, most footy journalists are pretty lame and little of what the "news" they break is of much interest, but reactions like Beveridge's are like getting pest exterminators into your house to get rid of a fly, when a simple swat or Raid spray would do.

The comments were made on a private What's App group, the first ones anyway. There seems to be a second one on Tic Toc or similar. I find the comments offensive from the point of view they are sexist. He is sexualising a colleague. A colleague who he knows is a Lesbian and has absolutely no interest in being sexualised by men. This is highly offensive to the person who is being sexualised. He is also saying he is a white, heterosexual male, so therefore he is better than Black, Asian, Homosexual people or women. He puts himself in a box and considers that box as should be treated on a much higher level that the others he named. He has a sense of entitlement, probably due to his private school boy education.

[wolftone57]

What the hell is the world coming too. It’s illegal to record someone speaking without informing them.

Come on mate. You need to play by the law 1st and foremost.

Sorry, it is not illegal if the comments were made and sent to a social media group as these were. These comments were made as a recording, made by him, and sent to a private What's App group. So, therefore not illegal to share if you find them offensive and obviously someone in that group did.

[wolftone57]

It’s definitely not illegal in NZ and I think Australia too. Recordings can be used in court sometimes too. I have been reading up because I have a bit of a dispute about to go down with the guy I bought a car off.

They did not illegally record him. He sent a voice recording to a private group of his friends. So, ultimately it comes to this. He sent a voice message. Someone in his peer group decided to use it. That is not illegal as it was sent to them and is ultimately shared intellectual, not very intellectual, property.

[stevoswan]

Sorry, it is not illegal if the comments were made and sent to a social media group as these were. These comments were made as a recording, made by him, and sent to a private What's App group. So, therefore not illegal to share if you find them offensive and obviously someone in that group did.

Eventually....and seemingly only when the recording would have more currency. He deserves to be sacked though.

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AFL said no further action.

As I said earlier.....protected species.

[Bangalore Swans]

Morris has issued a huge apology on his Twitter.

He has condemned his own comments.

I liked his journalism, particularly his cricket writing.

I hope that Morris can reinvigorate his professional career. Everyone deserves a 2nd chance. Morris will go through some very tough times in the next little while.

Many people on Red and White will believe that Morris should be condemned for life. People should always remember if their son, father, uncle, husband or best friend made a mistake like Morris then you would want them to have a 2nd chance or a least a shot at proving they can be better than that.

[Ludwig]

Morris is a creep. I never liked him and thought he was a terrible journalist to boot. I hope we never see his face again.

[joeykanga]

I just have the polar opposite of everyone of your views..you pick and choose who to put on a pedestal and who to knock.
Give us a break will you and stop preaching to us. We all have life experiences and I wish you'd keep to was tick to your motto of everyone deserving a second chance when you criticise Luke Beveridge and others who you see fit to criticise. And you do it often.
Im wondering which of the world leaders you're idolising right now heaven forbid ..

Luke Beveridge is a good man and one of the coaches I respect. You criticised him heavily .

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That was meant for Bangalore the moral guidance of the world

[Markwebbos]

Am I the only one who finds the timing of the release of this recording more than a little suspicious?

[Meg]

Am I the only one who finds the timing of the release of this recording more than a little suspicious?

Is there anyone who doesn’t?

Presumably one of Morris’s ‘mates’ is a Bulldogs fan.

[Bangalore Swans]

I just have the polar opposite of everyone of your views..you pick and choose who to put on a pedestal and who to knock.
Give us a break will you and stop preaching to us. We all have life experiences and I wish you'd keep to was tick to your motto of everyone deserving a second chance when you criticise Luke Beveridge and others who you see fit to criticise. And you do it often.
Im wondering which of the world leaders you're idolising right now heaven forbid ..

Luke Beveridge is a good man and one of the coaches I respect. You criticised him heavily .

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That was meant for Bangalore the moral guidance of the world

My criticism of Beveridge was mild. I only criticised his action of telling Morris to leave the press conference when it’s the AFL press conference.

For perspective, Caroline Wilson was very strong in her criticism of Beveridge. Have a read of her comments.

[royboy42]

A large part of Morris's job is chatting back and forth with various Fox female presenters.
I can not imagine any scenario where the women would ever do this again with him.