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  • wolftone57
    Veterans List
    • Aug 2008
    • 5835

    Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
    AFL Daily Podcast - AFL.com.au

    Swans and bombers trade review today

    - - - Updated - - -

    https://omny.fm/shows/afl-daily/afl-daily-20-01-22 swans
    I've never bought into trading. I find all that sort of stuff irrelavent and unnecessary.

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    • Auntie.Gerald
      Veterans List
      • Oct 2009
      • 6474

      like Hickey or Ladhams ?
      "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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      • 0918330512
        Senior Player
        • Sep 2011
        • 1654

        Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
        like Hickey or Ladhams ?
        Or Mummy, or Ball, or Jolly, or Sinclair, or Seaby … or Chambers

        Apart from Stafford, Nankervis (who were both traded to Richmond), Pyke & Goodsey (and he’s a bit of a stretch to be called a genuine ruckman) who else of quality have we actually developed. Most of our ruckmen have come from other clubs when we’ve had any sort of success (even look back to Brian Roberts, Graham Teasdale, Barry Round). During the Edelsten era we were probably a genuine ruckman short of success (and they did try for Simon Madden)
        Last edited by 0918330512; 20 January 2022, 07:46 PM.

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        • liz
          Veteran
          Site Admin
          • Jan 2003
          • 16733

          Originally posted by 09183305
          Or Mummy, or Ball, or Jolly, or Sinclair, or Seaby … or Chambers

          Apart from Stafford, Nankervis (who were both traded to Richmond), Pyke & Goodsey (and he’s a bit of a stretch to be called a genuine ruckman) who else of quality have we actually developed. Most of our ruckmen have come from other clubs when we’ve had any sort of success (even look back to Brian Roberts, Graham Teasdale, Barry Round). During the Edelsten era we were probably a genuine ruckman short of success (and they did try for Simon Madden)
          From very brief glimpse, I think both Doyle and Naismith had the ability to be, at worst, decent ruckmen. Sadly their bodies let them down.

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          • wolftone57
            Veterans List
            • Aug 2008
            • 5835

            Originally posted by liz
            From very brief glimpse, I think both Doyle and Naismith had the ability to be, at worst, decent ruckmen. Sadly their bodies let them down.
            True Liz. Doyle had aggression. He was hard at the contest. Same Sam

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            • 0918330512
              Senior Player
              • Sep 2011
              • 1654

              Originally posted by liz
              From very brief glimpse, I think both Doyle and Naismith had the ability to be, at worst, decent ruckmen. Sadly their bodies let them down.
              I considered them, but for me both would be considered busts as ruckmen. Their bodies let them down, sure, but in the end they didn’t really have the impact of nearly all of our trade-ins

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              • 707
                Veterans List
                • Aug 2009
                • 6204

                I liked this quote from Heeney yesterday

                “Angus Sheldrick and Corey Warner have really produced that energy and work rate as well as being smart footy boys"

                I like guys with footy brains, the two WA recruits already noted for that

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                • Auntie.Gerald
                  Veterans List
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 6474

                  Just to add to that 707

                  Marty Roberts certainly looked like an effortless decision maker when watching a few pf his videos for SA and local.
                  "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                  • i'm-uninformed2
                    Reefer Madness
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 4653

                    Originally posted by 09183305
                    Or Mummy, or Ball, or Jolly, or Sinclair, or Seaby … or Chambers

                    Apart from Stafford, Nankervis (who were both traded to Richmond), Pyke & Goodsey (and he’s a bit of a stretch to be called a genuine ruckman) who else of quality have we actually developed. Most of our ruckmen have come from other clubs when we’ve had any sort of success (even look back to Brian Roberts, Graham Teasdale, Barry Round). During the Edelsten era we were probably a genuine ruckman short of success (and they did try for Simon Madden)
                    No offence, but Goodes won a Brownlow playing in the ruck!
                    'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                    • Auntie.Gerald
                      Veterans List
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 6474

                      Also I have heard alot of our swans players in their interviews talk about a significant focus on handballs

                      This seems to line up well with contested footy being more top4 like

                      We put a big emphasis into ball movement by foot last season / pre season and now it appears a bit more so into contested and exits via hand
                      "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                      • 0918330512
                        Senior Player
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 1654

                        Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
                        No offence, but Goodes won a Brownlow playing in the ruck!
                        No offence taken . His Brownlow is why I included him among our ruck successes … thought I caveat that with I personally don’t think he’s a genuine ruckman, more a utility who could play in the ruck

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                        • bloodspirit
                          Clubman
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 4448

                          Bit of pre-season news:

                          * still no Buddy at training in recent times (I know he was around last year but not sure if he's been sighted this year?)

                          * training with match simulations etc has ramped up to a fair bit of contact - still not like a real match but properly contesting the ball

                          * best 22 players training away from the main group included Blakey, Papley, McDonald and Mills. McDonald however re-joined the main group for the game simulations. Maybe they are just trying to build his fitness rather than there being an injury issue.

                          * Braeden was absent today (also confirmed his nickname is 'BJ')

                          * Chad looking good - saw him have a great scrap for the ball with Heeney, and he's just generally so powerful and hard to tackle!

                          * McAndrew beginning to look a bit more convincing as a footballer. Was competing with Hickey in the ruck - mostly getting beaten but looking less beanpoley and out-of-place. Covering the ground quite well too.

                          I noted that they have spraypainted 10 white 'lanes' on to Tramway Oval. I think this is to help them with training structures and guarding space. They have also spraypainted another arc in black about another 10-15 (?) metres outside the 50 arc. I think this represents a zone where players have to start looking for scoring options or something.
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                          • bloodspirit
                            Clubman
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 4448

                            The Swans have posted a training gallery from today's session which shows the degree of contact that's going on. It also shows how McLachlan was competing with Hickey for the ball: Friday field session 21.01.22 (sydneyswans.com.au)

                            Some other points:

                            * Today's session was longer than usual. It was still going at 11.40 am when I left.

                            * Today was my first chance to lay eyes on Gus Sheldrick. I now think Matty Roberts is in the box seat to be first new draftee to debut. Sheldrick looked like he is still learning our structures and gamestyle and possibly still needs to work on his tank before he gets a game. Roberts seems more polished and versatile and ready to go sooner.

                            * Emilio was at training today, and the club has posted a cute video of him mic'd up: Mic'd Up: Emilio Kennedy (sydneyswans.com.au).
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                            • liz
                              Veteran
                              Site Admin
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 16733

                              I see they're starting the academy boys even younger nowadays. Needs to work on his running speed, but ball handling is pretty impressive. Don't think I could catch a Sherrin that cleanly.

                              Mic'd Up: Emilio Kennedy

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                              • dejavoodoo44
                                Veterans List
                                • Apr 2015
                                • 8490

                                Originally posted by liz
                                I see they're starting the academy boys even younger nowadays. Needs to work on his running speed, but ball handling is pretty impressive. Don't think I could catch a Sherrin that cleanly.

                                Mic'd Up: Emilio Kennedy
                                I hope Dwayne Russell doesn't see that, otherwise he'll be gibbering on about how the Swans identify academy talent at 5 years of age. With the insinuation, that the kiddies are then shunted off to a Soviet style sports institute.

                                The little fella has some ball skills, though.

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