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  • Ludwig
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2007
    • 9359

    Originally posted by aardvark
    Is Lloyd a free agent? I'd happily trade him for a decent young defender or 1st round pick.
    He is a free agent, so the best we could hope for is a 2nd round compo pick, which would be in the mid to late 30s.

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    • Mark26
      Senior Player
      • Jan 2017
      • 1535

      Originally posted by stellation
      Shall I compare Justin to a summer's day? He is more lovely and more temperate.
      I didn't think Shaking the spear was allowed on RWO.

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      • dimelb
        pr. dim-melb; m not f
        • Jun 2003
        • 6889

        He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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        • Aprilbr
          Senior Player
          • Oct 2016
          • 1803

          Originally posted by Ludwig
          He is a free agent, so the best we could hope for is a 2nd round compo pick, which would be in the mid to late 30s.
          Agreed, Ludwig. Very similar to what we received for George. I recently read George is on $450k per year for 4 years at Carlton. That seems very reasonable given how well he is playing for them. I would think that's the sort of money Lloyd is worth too.

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          • Roadrunner
            Senior Player
            • Jan 2018
            • 1477

            Originally posted by Ludwig
            He is a free agent, so the best we could hope for is a 2nd round compo pick, which would be in the mid to late 30s.
            Not too concerned if he decides to leave. He has a few things going for him but precise, penetrating kicking is not one of them. You mentioned in the past that you can see him on the wing: I agree with that as I see him as a weak link in our defence. A premiership team is built with a rebounding backline that gives the forwards an advantage, and Lloydy doesn’t do that. I believe when we get our backline sorted we have forwards capable of putting winning scores on the board. Of course, I’m not underestimating the strength of the midfield but our young guys like JMac, Chad, Errol and Braeden will prove to be good enough. Then there is RB of course!

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            • bloodspirit
              Clubman
              • Apr 2015
              • 4448

              Latest on the mid-season rookie draft: "Nominations for the mid-season draft will open on Monday, May 9 and close on Tuesday, May 24": Inside Trading: Power star Karl Amon in sights of Victorian rivals, reborn Docker Blake Acres to start talks (afl.com.au).

              This article also notes that we may have interest in former Hawk Ollie Hanrahan who is playing in the VFL for Werribee. I can see a case for Hanrahan - he is a plug and play option that gives us a bit of extra depth in the mids. I'm not that familiar with Hanrahan but, from the description in the article, he would be competing with Sheldrick and Roberts and I think they both show great promise and deserve to be invested in. At the least Hanrahan would strengthen our reserves side (which is useful for developing all of the side except for the player who's spot he takes), but that alone isn't be a good reason to sign him.

              I look forward to a better preview of the mid-season draft crop once the nominations are in.
              All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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              • Aprilbr
                Senior Player
                • Oct 2016
                • 1803

                Originally posted by bloodspirit
                Latest on the mid-season rookie draft: "Nominations for the mid-season draft will open on Monday, May 9 and close on Tuesday, May 24": Inside Trading: Power star Karl Amon in sights of Victorian rivals, reborn Docker Blake Acres to start talks (afl.com.au).

                This article also notes that we may have interest in former Hawk Ollie Hanrahan who is playing in the VFL for Werribee. I can see a case for Hanrahan - he is a plug and play option that gives us a bit of extra depth in the mids. I'm not that familiar with Hanrahan but, from the description in the article, he would be competing with Sheldrick and Roberts and I think they both show great promise and deserve to be invested in. At the least Hanrahan would strengthen our reserves side (which is useful for developing all of the side except for the player who's spot he takes), but that alone isn't be a good reason to sign him.

                I look forward to a better preview of the mid-season draft crop once the nominations are in.
                Nice update, BS. I hope that we can do better out of it than just a depth/reserves player. Last year we went for a development ruckman in Stretch. Of course, if someone goes down by the deadline then we may look for instant cover? I'm sure there are some diamonds in the rough out there just looking for an opportunity. Look at that guy Hawthorn picked up last year. What a find! Easily in their best team. Wouldn't it be great to find someone like that!

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                • 707
                  Veterans List
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 6204

                  Hanrahan - why was he delisted from a rebuilding Hawthorn? Wasn't considered in their best 36 going forward.

                  We'll probably take one in the MSD on 12th? June but at this stage we won't have a pick before 12/13'ish. Teams like WCE, Norf, Essendon get the cream.

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                  • bloodspirit
                    Clubman
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 4448

                    Lukosius is not having a great season and didn't have a good game against us this week, but I'm still keen on targeting him for trade-in. The good thing about his poor form is that it should make him cheaper to acquire. He remains a versatile, quality KPP with a lot of upside. I still think that with the SA teams to compete against (especially the Crows) we'll need to ready to give up the Demons' first rounder. Although if there are no end-of-first round compo picks then that could become a very valuable pick... anyway a lot of water to go under the bridge between now and then and I may just be wasting my breath if the Swans or JL himself are uninterested in the trade.
                    All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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                    • Aprilbr
                      Senior Player
                      • Oct 2016
                      • 1803

                      Originally posted by bloodspirit
                      Lukosius is not having a great season and didn't have a good game against us this week, but I'm still keen on targeting him for trade-in. The good thing about his poor form is that it should make him cheaper to acquire. He remains a versatile, quality KPP with a lot of upside. I still think that with the SA teams to compete against (especially the Crows) we'll need to ready to give up the Demons' first rounder. Although if there are no end-of-first round compo picks then that could become a very valuable pick... anyway a lot of water to go under the bridge between now and then and I may just be wasting my breath if the Swans or JL himself are uninterested in the trade.
                      I remember seeing Lukosius play really well against us this time last season. He seems to be struggling now though. I would imagine he would have a strong preference for heading home to SA if he doesn't stay on the Gold Coast, but its definitely worth pursuing to sound him out.

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                      • 707
                        Veterans List
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 6204

                        Dustin Martin anyone? Probably forces Bell or Wicks out of the forward line

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                        • Roadrunner
                          Senior Player
                          • Jan 2018
                          • 1477

                          Originally posted by 707
                          Dustin Martin anyone? Probably forces Bell or Wicks out of the forward line
                          Like your humour 707- if only!
                          Mind you, there are quite a few who would force those 2 out of our forward line- starting with our draftees!

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                          • 707
                            Veterans List
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 6204

                            Originally posted by 707
                            Dustin Martin anyone? Probably forces Bell or Wicks out of the forward line
                            Some seriously idiotic suggestions of a trade being floated - Taranto and a first rounder for a 31yo Dusty with mental health issues, LOL Doesn't even take into account his $1.4mill contract. Richmond supporters can't wait to push him out the door. Even Ned Guy couldn't dream up these trade scenarios!

                            No wonder Richmond are willing to give him their blessing to move on, that's a massive chunk of salary cap for a bloke whose taken mental health leave

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                            • Bangalore Swans
                              Suspended by the MRP
                              • Mar 2021
                              • 1049

                              Originally posted by 707
                              Dustin Martin anyone? Probably forces Bell or Wicks out of the forward line
                              Get him here. Dusty would love Bondi and Bondi would love him. Needs to take a good pay cut.

                              I would give Richmond the Melbourne First Rounder, Jake Lloyd and James Rowbottom (BT could help with that as a former Richmond player).

                              Imagine a midfield of Mills, Chad and Dusty.

                              TB loves Dusty so I’ll defer to his judgment.

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                              • Roadrunner
                                Senior Player
                                • Jan 2018
                                • 1477

                                Originally posted by Bangalore Swans
                                Get him here. Dusty would love Bondi and Bondi would love him. Needs to take a good pay cut.

                                I would give Richmond the Melbourne First Rounder, Jake Lloyd and James Rowbottom (BT could help with that as a former Richmond player).

                                Imagine a midfield of Mills, Chad and Dusty.

                                TB loves Dusty so I’ll defer to his judgment.
                                Banga, you keep smoking that stuff!???? Love the way you bring TB into all your posts- my take is that he loves Dusty as much as he loves Rowy! And I’m smoking the same as you????

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