General footy chat Why Cyril Rioli left Hawthorn

[Sandridge]

AFL 2022: Cyril Rioli on Jeff Kennett racism incident with his wife, ripped jeans, Shannyn, Launceston airport, retirement from Hawthorn Hawks in 2018

[i'm-uninformed2]

This has been a bit of an open secret among a couple of Hawks fans I know (I know, I need better friends) but probably not the full extent of it, or the depth of his anger. For example, he’s clearly peeved at others like Clarko.

Let’s also remember what a low rent club they are. Their supporters were first to target Goodes, their then Chair Andrew Newbold denied it had anything to do with race and was the last holdout on his club addressing it after the West Coast game where it reached its worst.

But of course, his reward for that was a spot on the AFL Commission.

[Nico]

What seemed strange to me was the lack of indigenous players coming out in support of Goodesy. Maybe they were afraid to.

The arrogant, grubby, Family Club that played unsociable football that permeated down to it's supporters. I now wonder if Buddy left for reasons other than those given at the time.

By the way the current coach was the one seen kneeing players in the hamstring at centre bounces. Who can forget that disgraceful sniper Matthews.

[KTigers]

There is always a lot of talk about "culture" at footy clubs. But a lot of it is just a virtue signaling exercise. The irony of
Kennett being rude to Rioli's wife during the Indigenous Week game shouldn't be lost on anyone. But the really telling comment
from Kennett was him saying he spoke to her as he would speak to one of his kids. I always felt during the period when
Adam was being assaulted that it was likely many other indigenous players were intimidated into not speaking out as they
saw what happened when Adam spoke out. Even that phrase (speaking out) is a misnomer as really all Adam was really
doing was stating a number of undeniable facts.
Adam was supported by a number of indigenous and non-indigenous players at the time, but they were thin on the
ground I agree.

[stevoswan]

Wow.....but who is honestly surprised by this?

Scumthorn.....sadly they are simply a reflection of this country as a whole. Lots to be done yet......for real, not simply for 'image'.

[Nico]

There is always a lot of talk about "culture" at footy clubs. But a lot of it is just a virtue signaling exercise. The irony of
Kennett being rude to Rioli's wife during the Indigenous Week game shouldn't be lost on anyone. But the really telling comment
from Kennett was him saying he spoke to her as he would speak to one of his kids. I always felt during the period when
Adam was being assaulted that it was likely many other indigenous players were intimidated into not speaking out as they
saw what happened when Adam spoke out. Even that phrase (speaking out) is a misnomer as really all Adam was really
doing was stating a number of undeniable facts.
Adam was supported by a number of indigenous and non-indigenous players at the time, but they were thin on the
ground I agree.

So speaking like you do with your children doesn't necessarily equate with how you speak with others. So if he is condescending and a smart A with his children then he shows he is a bully of the first order. Sounds like he finds it funny to make these sorts of comments. In the end the voters saw through him and he lost the unlosable election.

[The Big Cat]

So speaking like you do with your children doesn't necessarily equate with how you speak with others. So if he is condescending and a smart A with his children then he shows he is a bully of the first order. Sounds like he finds it funny to make these sorts of comments. In the end the voters saw through him and he lost the unlosable election.

He was a cadet leader at his high fee private school. Do we need to know more? When you look up bully in the dictionary there’s a picture of Kennett.

[Bangalore Swans]

What a complex situation.

What I took from the article is that Clarkson post his Hawks retirement is doing his best to connect with his former Hawks senior players. He tried to meet up with Rioli in Darwin even though he was no longer a Hawks employee.

He came to the SCG for Franklin’s moment and wore a Swans scarf.

Great to see a side of Clarkson who loves his players and wants to show them care even though they no longer play for him.

[Bloods05]

What a complex situation.

What I took from the article is that Clarkson post his Hawks retirement is doing his best to connect with his former Hawks senior players. He tried to meet up with Rioli in Darwin even though he was no longer a Hawks employee.

He came to the SCG for Franklin’s moment and wore a Swans scarf.

Great to see a side of Clarkson who loves his players and wants to show them care even though they no longer play for him.

You took THAT from the article?

[goswannies]

He was a cadet leader at his high fee private school. Do we need to know more? When you look up bully in the dictionary there’s a picture of Kennett.

Kennett was a cadet leader or Rioli was a cadet leader?

[KTigers]

You took THAT from the article?

Yep. The well behaved white fella should always be celebrated. Lets get around Clarko!

[Bloods05]

Kennett was a cadet leader or Rioli was a cadet leader?

Kennett.

[stevoswan]

What a complex situation.

What I took from the article is that Clarkson post his Hawks retirement is doing his best to connect with his former Hawks senior players. He tried to meet up with Rioli in Darwin even though he was no longer a Hawks employee.

He came to the SCG for Franklin’s moment and wore a Swans scarf.

Great to see a side of Clarkson who loves his players and wants to show them care even though they no longer play for him.

While he looked good in a Swans scarf.....hell, most people do:.....Cyril refused to meet with him. What does that say?

Look, he might actually be a 'nice bloke' outside footy but as Hawthorn coach he proved to be quite unlikable.

You seem to enjoy putting up positive character references for known Swans enemies. Hell, I like to find the good in people too....but this is footy!

[0918330512]

He was a cadet leader at his high fee private school. Do we need to know more?

What an utterly ridiculous comment.

Few, if any, students at “high fee private school(s)” choose to attend there. It’s the parent’s decision. And the parents choose it to give the children the best opportunities in life. Whether the decision is a correct one or achieves the intended goal is a different matter. And as for cadets, extra curricular activities are mandatory. The student (or parent) have no option but participate. And the options in year 9, during Kennett’s time, would likely have been sea scouts, cadets or St Johns (the latter being met with derision by peers). A cadet leader is and appointment recognising leadership qualities by peers and staff. To ridicule a student for this is akin to mocking them for being elected to captain of football, a prefect or captain of the school.

So yes, TBC, you need to know more. Like Kennett or not, to tar every student who has attended a attended a private school and hold a position of responsibility is a somewhat pathetic stereotype from a grown adult. Josh Kennedy was a private school attendee. Nick Smith was a captain of football at the same private school as Kennett, and,
I believe, a cadet. The fact that Kennett was a cadet leader only demonstrated he was perhaps destined for a leadership position. But, as we see littered throughout history up until this very day, not all capable leaders are “good” leaders.

[0918330512]

While he looked good in a Swans scarf.....hell, most people do:.....Cyril refused to meet with him. What does that say?

Look, he might actually be a 'nice bloke' outside footy but as Hawthorn coach he proved to be quite unlikable.

You seem to enjoy putting up positive character references for known Swans enemies. Hell, I like to find the good in people too....but this is footy!

The first 2 paragraphs are very valid.

Who doesn’t look good in a Swans scarf? And Jr not meeting with Clarko attests to dislike of Clarko or his principles and an unwillingness to forgive (you can’t force someone to like another person).

Clarko might indeed be a nice guy away from footy. So might Bevo, Chins McGuire and Malthouse. Or they might not, until you know them personally, you don’t really know. But the public personas that we saw were generally quite grating on people outside their clubs. And even to some inside the clubs.