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  • Blood Fever
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2007
    • 4049

    #91
    Originally posted by Bloods05
    Gina thinks it's inappropriate for sporting organisations to be used to advance political or social causes, but totally fine for them to be used to advance commercial interests.
    True but 15 mill is very difficult to find. Danger is that companies will shy away unless they're the purest of the pure. Not many of them.

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    • stevoswan
      Veterans List
      • Sep 2014
      • 8555

      #92
      Originally posted by Blood Fever
      True but 15 mill is very difficult to find. Danger is that companies will shy away unless they're the purest of the pure. Not many of them.
      Maybe there's a lesson for them in that. Maybe....but does a leopard ever change its spots?

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      • Blood Fever
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        • Apr 2007
        • 4049

        #93
        Originally posted by stevoswan
        Maybe there's a lesson for them in that. Maybe....but does a leopard ever change its spots?
        Many leopards may not bother to get involved. That may result in not enough leopards to go around.

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        • Bloods05
          Senior Player
          • Oct 2008
          • 1641

          #94
          Originally posted by Blood Fever
          Many leopards may not bother to get involved. That may result in not enough leopards to go around.
          Good. Their corrupting influence is something sport can do without.

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          • barry
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 8499

            #95
            Originally posted by Blood Fever
            True but 15 mill is very difficult to find. Danger is that companies will shy away unless they're the purest of the pure. Not many of them.
            Gina is not gifting netball $15m. She thinks she will get at least $15m of value by associating with a wholesome sport. Unfortunately for her she is probably down $5m at the moment. I feel no sympathy.

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            • Blood Fever
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2007
              • 4049

              #96
              Originally posted by barry
              Gina is not gifting netball $15m. She thinks she will get at least $15m of value by associating with a wholesome sport. Unfortunately for her she is probably down $5m at the moment. I feel no sympathy.
              I feel zero sympathy as well in this case. However, worthy sports may suffer if the money dries up. Also, while it is distasteful for me to defend her, the egregious comments about indigenous people were made by her father forty years ago, not by her.

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              • caj23
                Senior Player
                • Aug 2003
                • 2462

                #97
                Originally posted by barry
                Gina is not gifting netball $15m. She thinks she will get at least $15m of value by associating with a wholesome sport. Unfortunately for her she is probably down $5m at the moment. I feel no sympathy.
                Lol it’s no skin off her nose, I’m sure she’s consoling herself by rolling around in $100 notes

                Netball Australia made a $7m loss last year so the only losers are the players from the Diamonds themselves right through to the grassroots players at local level who would’ve benefited from the funds

                It’s highly unlikely that they’ll find another sponsor willing to provide anywhere near that level of funding

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                • Captain
                  Captain of the Side
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 3602

                  #98
                  The best part is, Gina has literally done or said nothing wrong. Cancelled because of something her father said 40 years ago. What a joke.

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                  • 707
                    Veterans List
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 6204

                    #99
                    Originally posted by Captain
                    The best part is, Gina has literally done or said nothing wrong. Cancelled because of something her father said 40 years ago. What a joke.
                    Yep, that worked out well for all concerned.

                    No problems with sportspeople wanting to have a say on these issues but if you do want to take the high moral ground then be prepared to take the hit to your hip pocket because it's those who hand you are biting that is the hand that is feeding you.

                    AFL players, how do you feel about the AFL supporting gambling? I for one am appalled by the lack of morals in our game supporting an industry that does so much harm.

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                    • wolftone57
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                      • Aug 2008
                      • 5857

                      Originally posted by Markwebbos
                      I believe I raised Qatar Airlines some time back. Even more pointed after the Bombers got rid of Thorburn because he was in a leadership role of a church that is homophobic.

                      I certainly don’t like them being our sponsor and the club promoting Qatar etc.

                      There will be heaps of attention on Qatars human rights record once the World Cup gets going,

                      Rightly so

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                      Gambling is 100% wrong and unethical too.
                      I have banged on about this sponsorship for years. Qatar be heads anyone they charge with treason, saying something not nice about supreme ruler ( very Dalek that one), being homosexual, striking because of not being paid for working on their World Cup (at least 3 Filipinos have been murdered by the state).

                      Our club should not have this sponsorship. Nor should there be any gambling sponsorships in the AFL

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                      • wolftone57
                        Veterans List
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 5857

                        Originally posted by Meg
                        Swans have already taken a strong stance against gambling sponsorship through our partnership with Gambling Aware.

                        ‘Tom Harley, Chief Executive Officer of the Sydney Swans said the club was thrilled to be working in partnership with the NSW Government’s Reclaim the Game initiative to raise awareness of the risks associated with gambling.

                        “The focus of our partnership is on addressing the normalisation of sports betting and as part of this, Swans matches at the SCG will not feature gambling advertising or sponsorship,” Mr Harley said.

                        https://www.gambleaware.nsw.gov.au/n...ng-advertising
                        But we are still sponsored by QATAR Airlines, a company owned by a murdering, slave nation

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                        • wolftone57
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                          • Aug 2008
                          • 5857

                          Originally posted by caj23
                          I wonder if those cricketers and netballers will be so willing to take a stand if it hits them in the hip pocket personally.

                          It's an admirable stance but not very pragmatic in the real world, and who is the arbitrator of what is an "acceptable" sponsorship
                          Unethical sponsorship is that of an industry or body that leaves people worse off by their existence. Gambling. Qatar government (thry publicly behead people, use slave labour, murder homosexuals). This is unethical sponsorship. Ant sponsorship which would or could lead to people being left worse off.

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                          • Bloods05
                            Senior Player
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 1641

                            Originally posted by Captain
                            The best part is, Gina has literally done or said nothing wrong. Cancelled because of something her father said 40 years ago. What a joke.
                            Oh please.

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                            • Ruck'n'Roll
                              Ego alta, ergo ictus
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 3990

                              If the players are willing to take the financial repercussions, then I can't but think - good for them.
                              If they want their cake and to eat it too, and can get away with it - then lucky them. Although it's pretty skivy in my book, and I wished I could have gotten away with that throughout my career (to be brutally honest).

                              Having now read up on the issue it seems the issue had been resolved between the players, Netball Australia and the sponsors.
                              And then some ill tempered, and ludicrously entitled multimillionaires got wind of what was going on and went all diva. Cancelling the sponsorship with Netball Australia, and then because she'd run out of things to throw at them, cut the sponsorship with the WA netball team.

                              Odious person.

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                              • barry
                                Veterans List
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 8499

                                Sport sponsorship does tend to attract the dirty end of town trying to bolster their image.

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