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  • TheBloods
    Suspended by the MRP
    • Feb 2020
    • 2047

    Originally posted by bloodspirit
    Chad isn't only the leading coaches vote-getter for the Swans in this match AND for the season - he's also coming 11th competition wide!! Chad's time has arrived FAST! He really is an impactful player and he just seems to be doing everything well. I was excited when I saw him training with tackle bags in his first pre-season. Then he started his career slowly and, unlike TB, I did not foresee what he would so quickly become. It's been like a rocket taking off.
    You watch , Errol Jmac and Blakey will be the same

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    • joeykanga
      Warming the Bench
      • Jul 2019
      • 361

      Originally posted by TheBloods
      You watch , Errol Jmac and Blakey will be the same
      The Blakey and Errol rockets have already taken off..there's no need to announce them. It's obvious and has been for quite some time.
      I think we are all astute enough to see that.
      Perhaps commentators have taken a while but they're now regularly commenting on the sweet Gulden left foot(amongst a multitude of skills and traits he possesses) and Blakey- well I'd pick him first in any side I was picking.

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      • Roadrunner
        Senior Player
        • Jan 2018
        • 1467

        Originally posted by bloodspirit
        The point is that it's been a great learning experience for Tom (fortunately one that didn't even cost us) and, more pertinently, there is nothing to suggest that Melican, Gould or anyone else would have done any better. McCartin has won selection because he is the best we have - and as good as those others have been at times in the VFL I haven't seen anything to suggest they're better than Tom.
        Can we afford learning experiences this side of the finals? Don’t get me wrong- I also think that Tom is the best we have, but only when playing well. Which unfortunately wasn’t there yesterday. Hence my question: do we rest him for 1 game and bring in the Pelican?

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        • joeykanga
          Warming the Bench
          • Jul 2019
          • 361

          Originally posted by Roadrunner
          Can we afford learning experiences this side of the finals? Don’t get me wrong- I also think that Tom is the best we have, but only when playing well. Which unfortunately wasn’t there yesterday. Hence my question: do we rest him for 1 game and bring in the Pelican?
          No not for Melican...I feel more at ease with Tom there any day no matter what day Tom is having..
          The only think I'd love Tom to do better is to sometimes catch the ball when he can instead of fisting it away.

          I don't want to see the Melican dance where he arrives late for a contest and then has the turning arc of a semi trailer.

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          • TheBloods
            Suspended by the MRP
            • Feb 2020
            • 2047

            Originally posted by joeykanga
            The Blakey and Errol rockets have already taken off..there's no need to announce them. It's obvious and has been for quite some time.
            I think we are all astute enough to see that.
            Perhaps commentators have taken a while but they're now regularly commenting on the sweet Gulden left foot(amongst a multitude of skills and traits he possesses) and Blakey- well I'd pick him first in any side I was picking.
            Thhey know they will be good but they dont know how good . All 4 will be top 10 players in the comp in 5 years , maybe not Blakey but he will be close

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            • liz
              Veteran
              Site Admin
              • Jan 2003
              • 16758

              Originally posted by bloodspirit
              Chad isn't only the leading coaches vote-getter for the Swans ... for the season
              Apart from the bloke immediately above him on the leaderboard.

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              • Ludwig
                Veterans List
                • Apr 2007
                • 9359

                Originally posted by Roadrunner
                Can we afford learning experiences this side of the finals? Don’t get me wrong- I also think that Tom is the best we have, but only when playing well. Which unfortunately wasn’t there yesterday. Hence my question: do we rest him for 1 game and bring in the Pelican?
                No, we can't afford learning experiences this side of the finals.

                The time to drop Tom McCartin would have been after the GWS game! Then he could have avoided the poor performance against North. We should have consulted the oracles.

                Now that the learning experience has already been experienced, there's not much point in dropping TMac. He's already learnt his lesson and should improve for the next game. If we drop him now, we run the risk of passing on the learning experience game to his replacement.

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                Originally posted by liz
                Apart from the bloke immediately above him on the leaderboard.
                This should be a good learning experience for Chad, not to get ahead of himself on the leaderboard.

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                • Aaron
                  Regular in the Side
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 805

                  Mills has been fined $1000 for Wrestling Curtis Taylor during the fourth quarter.
                  Last edited by Aaron; 8 August 2022, 06:39 PM.

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                  • Agent 86
                    Senior Player
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 1686

                    Originally posted by Roadrunner
                    Yes, despite his possessions and goals, please keep him in the twos for now. Low value in the firsts.
                    Totes. God forbid I wasn’t suggesting he gets picked (just yet). But I’m buoyed by the fact we’re vying for top 4 spot in the McGoos. That’s pretty impressive display of depth.

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                    • Markwebbos
                      Veterans List
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 7186

                      Random thoughts:

                      - I don’t see how dropping TMac before finals I’d going to help his confidence.
                      - How could playing an undersized debutant possibly be an improvement now?
                      - I’m not sure Blakey senior will be at North next year.
                      - I believe Errol kicked three and earned a RS nomination after his first game, he broke out from the start.

                      I hope we go in unchanged against the Pies.

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                      • i'm-uninformed2
                        Reefer Madness
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 4653

                        I can't believe the talk of dropping Tom Mc. No, it wasn't his finest game but the idea of knocking his confidence a couple of weeks before the finals, when he's still without question our best bet for the role he plays and besides . . .

                        One - as others have pointed out, not all of Larkey's goals were kicked on him. Two - you can attribute a few of the goals to the mids letting North waltz out of the middle, which makes it nigh on impossible for a defender. And three - Larkey is going to get a hold of plenty of defenders. What he's done in such a crap side over the past two is outstanding. I've said before, if we're going to pinch someone from North, I'd rather him than Zurhaar.
                        'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                        • Roadrunner
                          Senior Player
                          • Jan 2018
                          • 1467

                          Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
                          I can't believe the talk of dropping Tom Mc. No, it wasn't his finest game but the idea of knocking his confidence a couple of weeks before the finals, when he's still without question our best bet for the role he plays and besides . . .

                          One - as others have pointed out, not all of Larkey's goals were kicked on him. Two - you can attribute a few of the goals to the mids letting North waltz out of the middle, which makes it nigh on impossible for a defender. And three - Larkey is going to get a hold of plenty of defenders. What he's done in such a crap side over the past two is outstanding. I've said before, if we're going to pinch someone from North, I'd rather him than Zurhaar.
                          Look, I don’t really want TMac dropped- of course he is the best we have. The thing is, there’s a huge gap between his best and worst, and against Norf he was all at see. Yes, he is young and inexperienced but we need him to be more consistent. Grabbing arms or jumpers is too costly and has resulted in a lot of frees given against him. He punches at times when he could mark and tries to mark when he should punch- easy for me to say from my armchair!????

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                          • stevoswan
                            Veterans List
                            • Sep 2014
                            • 8548

                            Originally posted by Roadrunner
                            Can we afford learning experiences this side of the finals? Don’t get me wrong- I also think that Tom is the best we have, but only when playing well. Which unfortunately wasn’t there yesterday. Hence my question: do we rest him for 1 game and bring in the Pelican?
                            No, we back him in because he is the best we have. Sure he needs to lift his game but as pointed out earlier, he rarely plays two bad games in a row. I'm confident he'll bounce back.

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                            Originally posted by Aaron
                            Mills has been fined $1000 for Wrestling Curtis Taylor during the fourth quarter.
                            I hope Taylor also got fined....more than Mills.

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                            • Aaron
                              Regular in the Side
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 805

                              Originally posted by stevoswan
                              I hope Taylor also got fined....more than Mills.
                              Yes, Taylor has been fined the same.

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                              • KTigers
                                Senior Player
                                • Apr 2012
                                • 2499

                                Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
                                I can't believe the talk of dropping Tom Mc. No, it wasn't his finest game but the idea of knocking his confidence a couple of weeks before the finals, when he's still without question our best bet for the role he plays and besides . . .

                                One - as others have pointed out, not all of Larkey's goals were kicked on him. Two - you can attribute a few of the goals to the mids letting North waltz out of the middle, which makes it nigh on impossible for a defender. And three - Larkey is going to get a hold of plenty of defenders. What he's done in such a crap side over the past two is outstanding. I've said before, if we're going to pinch someone from North, I'd rather him than Zurhaar.
                                Agree. I would think the chances of Tom McCartin being dropped are zero. Sure, he had a few goals kicked on him. Not
                                nearly enough obviously as we won by six goals and should have won by 8 or 9. We are very fortunate to have him and his
                                bro in the same backline. Let's not forget Larkey's kicking was excellent, but he could have easily missed a few and ended
                                up with four goals. Tom is the new Heath Grundy if you ask me.

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