Rnd 23, vs St Kilda at Marvel, on Sunday 14 August, 2:40 PM

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  • Agent 86
    Senior Player
    • Aug 2004
    • 1686

    #46
    Originally posted by MattW
    I am finding it hard to get too excited until we've beaten St Kilda.
    100%! Roll out the cliches, but that’s what they’re for.

    Saints have nothing to lose at this point - so they will come at us looking for a big win. We need to be switched on from the get-go. Anything but a win for us will spoil all that good work & to lose by a lot will be a disaster.

    C’mon Swannies!!

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    • Agent 86
      Senior Player
      • Aug 2004
      • 1686

      #47
      Originally posted by Maltopia
      I like Clarke too and am happy at his resurgence. He did however butcher an ‘easy’ running 20-30 meter kick to an open Buddy who had broken free on a lead in the forward 50 in the second half.

      There was no one hanging on him or impending tackle, just poor skill execution under little pressure…

      …That said, I think Clarke has done more than enough to stay in the team.
      There were a number of kicks to that south-east corner of the SCG which went long and wide of the Buddy leads. RC’s was just one of ‘em. A decent breeze blowing that way?

      He does need to keep polishing the disposal skills, however, as he seems to telegraph where he’s going and all it takes is a touch by the opponent to cause a turnover.

      He’s been great at curtailing attacking weapons from other teams defensive zones, and there’s been a lot of talk about it across the media. Teams will work out how to get around it. I reckon there’ll be a lot of attention from those around him if he goes to Sinclair (say). Tag/block the tagger perhaps?

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      • joeykanga
        Warming the Bench
        • Jul 2019
        • 361

        #48
        Originally posted by liz
        One positive from tonight is that it will be pretty hard for us to finish below fifth now, meaning we're unlikely to face Richmond in an elimination final (though I guess Carlton could win, and Essendon might pull something out of the fire against the Tigers). I think the Tigers are being over-rated by some of the media (certainly in terms of their chances of going all the way) but they do have the weapons to trouble most teams on their day.

        Secondly, if we win on Sunday and match up against Melbourne in round one of the finals - wherever the game is - we go in against a team that's just had a soft kill. If you look at Melbourne's recent form, they've thrashed Brisbane twice, but otherwise they lost to Collingwood and the Dogs (a mediocre side) and only just fell over the line against Carlton. I guess there was a strong result against Freo in there too. While Melbourne looked very impressive tonight, I'm no more "scared" of them that I was before. They just have something that turns Brisbane to jelly.

        Finally, the margin we now need to win by to secure second is so large that I don't think the team will start thinking about it until they're far enough ahead that the game is well and truly won.
        That's such a good point about not having to worry about the margin as that will only come in to play once we've secured the win and are quite a long way in front.thats a real positive to win first and then the margin suddenly looms as the next target

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        Originally posted by Maltopia
        Sorry for cross posting. For us to get to 2nd, our required winning margin will depend on St Kilda's score.

        This is what our winning margin needs to be to get to 130.6 percentage, based on what St Kilda scores

        30 44.0
        40 47.1
        50 50.2
        60 53.2
        70 56.3
        80 59.3
        90 62.4
        100 65.5

        So we need to win by 10 goals if St Kilda score 80. If St Kilda score 50, we *only* need to win by 8.2.
        Thank you for this.

        I'll start looking at this once we look like we're in the way to a handy win

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        • 111431
          Regular in the Side
          • Sep 2010
          • 697

          #49
          Originally posted by liz
          One positive from tonight is that it will be pretty hard for us to finish below fifth now, meaning we're unlikely to face Richmond in an elimination final (though I guess Carlton could win, and Essendon might pull something out of the fire against the Tigers). I think the Tigers are being over-rated by some of the media (certainly in terms of their chances of going all the way) but they do have the weapons to trouble most teams on their day.

          Secondly, if we win on Sunday and match up against Melbourne in round one of the finals - wherever the game is - we go in against a team that's just had a soft kill. If you look at Melbourne's recent form, they've thrashed Brisbane twice, but otherwise they lost to Collingwood and the Dogs (a mediocre side) and only just fell over the line against Carlton. I guess there was a strong result against Freo in there too. While Melbourne looked very impressive tonight, I'm no more "scared" of them that I was before. They just have something that turns Brisbane to jelly.

          Finally, the margin we now need to win by to secure second is so large that I don't think the team will start thinking about it until they're far enough ahead that the game is well and truly won.
          the jelly was contested possession. They frightened the bjeevers out of the Lions

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          • giant
            Veterans List
            • Mar 2005
            • 4731

            #50
            Originally posted by liz
            One positive from tonight is that it will be pretty hard for us to finish below fifth now, meaning we're unlikely to face Richmond in an elimination final (though I guess Carlton could win, and Essendon might pull something out of the fire against the Tigers). I think the Tigers are being over-rated by some of the media (certainly in terms of their chances of going all the way) but they do have the weapons to trouble most teams on their day.

            Secondly, if we win on Sunday and match up against Melbourne in round one of the finals - wherever the game is - we go in against a team that's just had a soft kill. If you look at Melbourne's recent form, they've thrashed Brisbane twice, but otherwise they lost to Collingwood and the Dogs (a mediocre side) and only just fell over the line against Carlton. I guess there was a strong result against Freo in there too. While Melbourne looked very impressive tonight, I'm no more "scared" of them that I was before. They just have something that turns Brisbane to jelly.

            Finally, the margin we now need to win by to secure second is so large that I don't think the team will start thinking about it until they're far enough ahead that the game is well and truly won.
            The other positive is not having to explain to my twin daughters that I can't attend their 21st celebrations coz I couldn't possibly miss a home Swans final.

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            • TheBloods
              Suspended by the MRP
              • Feb 2020
              • 2047

              #51
              Nervous , not sure about this 22 we 've named , St kilda are good on their day .Must win

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              • stevoswan
                Veterans List
                • Sep 2014
                • 8548

                #52
                Originally posted by TheBloods
                Nervous , not sure about this 22 we 've named , St kilda are good on their day .Must win
                It's the same 22 that has won a few games in a row now.....having said that, I'm nervous too but I always am no matter who we play.

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                • Ludwig
                  Veterans List
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 9359

                  #53
                  On one side we have the Swans with a full list and everything to play for. On the other side we have a team with several regulars out with injury and nothing to play for.

                  Anything can happen, but if we can't win this one, do we even deserve to be in the finals?

                  To lose, we would have to be really terrible and very unlucky. But we also know this combination is not all that unusual in the game.

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                  • mcs
                    Travelling Swannie!!
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 8161

                    #54
                    Originally posted by TheBloods
                    Nervous , not sure about this 22 we 've named , St kilda are good on their day .Must win
                    The same 22 that has basically played most of the last month or so.....
                    "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                    • stevoswan
                      Veterans List
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 8548

                      #55
                      Just in.....

                      NO LATE CHANGES

                      MEDICAL SUBS
                      St Kilda: Dean Kent
                      Sydney: Sam Wicks

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                      • MattW
                        Veterans List
                        • May 2011
                        • 4208

                        #56
                        The score the Swans will need to finish second based on each St Kilda score between 40-80.

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                        • chalbilto
                          Senior Player
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 1139

                          #57
                          Get the win first, then worry about percentage later.

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                          • Auntie.Gerald
                            Veterans List
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 6474

                            #58
                            Buckle up everyone

                            we are going into HYPERDRIVE !!!!!!!
                            "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                            • dejavoodoo44
                              Veterans List
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 8570

                              #59
                              Indoors at Marvel, I expect our slick ball movement to be a bit too much for the Saints today, with Gulden, McInerney, Blakey, etc, providing some quality delivery for the forwards.

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                              • Sandridge
                                Outer wing, Lake Oval
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 2064

                                #60
                                Originally posted by chalbilto
                                Get the win first, then worry about percentage later.
                                Absolutely! GO BLOODS!

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