Rnd 23, vs St Kilda at Marvel, on Sunday 14 August, 2:40 PM

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  • Maltopia
    Senior Player
    • Apr 2016
    • 1556

    Team List Rnd 23, vs St Kilda at Marvel, on Sunday 14 August, 2:40 PM

    Who would have thought at the beginning of this season, or even halfway through, that we would be playing for 2nd spot in the final match of the regular season? Not me!

    If we beat St Kilda, we are guaranteed 3rd place. Second will depend on percentage. For example, Melbourne could gain more than 0.6 percentage points with a big win over Brisbane, and/or we could lose percentage if we have a high scoring low margin win vs the Saints (e.g, 100-90). Best result for us is if Brisbane win as they are a few percentage points behind, and then we can take second spot with a wider range of winning scores.

    But if we have a huge win, it won't matter at all what Brisbane or Melbourne do before us!

    As for the team selection, hard to change a winning team that has been on a six game winning streak. Clarke butchered the ball and caused turnovers, but strongly reduced Daicos' influence.

    Reid was ferocious in the first half even though he didn't impact the scoreboard. McDonald was strong apart from his set shot at goal (I think they showed stats of 7.13 set shot accuracy for him this season?).

    I think it will be no changes, except who they might put in as medical sub.
  • dejavoodoo44
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2015
    • 8578

    #2
    I'd be quite happy with no changes.
    And off on a tangent, one obscure stat that I'd like to know, is Paddy McCartin's record for the most number of marks that he took in a game, when playing for St Kilda. I mean, I'd find it mildly amusing, if he could break that record, when St Kilda are trying to kick the ball away from him.

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    • Goal Sneak
      Out of Bounds on the Full
      • Jun 2006
      • 653

      #3
      Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
      I'd be quite happy with no changes.
      And off on a tangent, one obscure stat that I'd like to know, is Paddy McCartin's record for the most number of marks that he took in a game, when playing for St Kilda. I mean, I'd find it mildly amusing, if he could break that record, when St Kilda are trying to kick the ball away from him.
      lol, no, Paddy took a career high 14 marks against the Bulldogs earlier this year. He still has a couple of career high stats from his Saints days but they are for Goals Scored, Inside 50's and Hitouts.

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      • Sandridge
        Outer wing, Lake Oval
        • Apr 2010
        • 2065

        #4
        Yes, who would have thought we'd be playing for second? After losing to Essendon, I had us missing the 8 altogether! So happy to be proven wrong!!

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        • 707
          Veterans List
          • Aug 2009
          • 6204

          #5
          Originally posted by Sandridge
          Yes, who would have thought we'd be playing for second? After losing to Essendon, I had us missing the 8 altogether! So happy to be proven wrong!!
          Do not mention that Essendon game, what a quagmire that club has become since then. Accuracy out of their ar** that day as well as us being poor.

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          • Scottee
            Senior Player
            • Aug 2003
            • 1585

            #6
            Without wanting to be negat, I just hope there isn't a psychological let down like there was after Buddy's 1000th. We are perfectly capable of losing this one on past form.

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            • Hotpotato
              Senior Player
              • Jun 2014
              • 2268

              #7
              Originally posted by Scottee
              Without wanting to be negat, I just hope there isn't a psychological let down like there was after Buddy's 1000th. We are perfectly capable of losing this one on past form.

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              That’s why Horse went straight to a focus on beating The Saints and cut the euphoria short on beating the Pies.

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              • RogueSwan
                McVeigh for Brownlow
                • Apr 2003
                • 4602

                #8
                Originally posted by Maltopia
                ... McDonald was strong apart from his set shot at goal (I think they showed stats of 7.13 set shot accuracy for him this season?).

                ...
                Which is interesting as my perception is that he is a good kick for goal. Maybe it is those longer range shots where he runs a bit of an arc and then ends up kicking it wide?
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                • MattW
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                  • May 2011
                  • 4211

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Hotpotato
                  That’s why Horse went straight to a focus on beating The Saints and cut the euphoria short on beating the Pies.
                  I am finding it hard to get too excited until we've beaten St Kilda.

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                  • Kafka's Ghost
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Sep 2017
                    • 899

                    #10
                    Originally posted by RogueSwan
                    Which is interesting as my perception is that he is a good kick for goal. Maybe it is those longer range shots where he runs a bit of an arc and then ends up kicking it wide?
                    He missed from 30m pretty much straight in front on Sunday, so it’s likely in his head. His basic technique is actually very good.


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                    • Blood Relative
                      Warming the Bench
                      • Oct 2018
                      • 155

                      #11
                      I think we are a little too hard on Clarke, his role is to negate. Nearly every possession he gets he has one or two opponents hanging off his shorts, rarely does he get time & space. When you think about Warner, McInerny & Stephens they all get the opportunity to run in open space. You don't see Clarke get that luxury too often.

                      I'm not saying he is perfect, but is a part of a perfect team, he is always were the heat is.

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                      • Blood Relative
                        Warming the Bench
                        • Oct 2018
                        • 155

                        #12
                        No changes for me

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                        • Maltopia
                          Senior Player
                          • Apr 2016
                          • 1556

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Blood Relative
                          I think we are a little too hard on Clarke, his role is to negate. Nearly every possession he gets he has one or two opponents hanging off his shorts, rarely does he get time & space. When you think about Warner, McInerny & Stephens they all get the opportunity to run in open space. You don't see Clarke get that luxury too often.

                          I'm not saying he is perfect, but is a part of a perfect team, he is always were the heat is.
                          I like Clarke too and am happy at his resurgence. He did however butcher an ‘easy’ running 20-30 meter kick to an open Buddy who had broken free on a lead in the forward 50 in the second half.

                          There was no one hanging on him or impending tackle, just poor skill execution under little pressure.

                          Gulden makes a few shocking kicks under no pressure every now and then too, but he is given a pass by most (TB does call him out for trying to be too clever at times) because he makes so many great kicks.

                          That said, I think Clarke has done more than enough to stay in the team.

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                          • Ludwig
                            Veterans List
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 9359

                            #14
                            I would be happy with no changes as well, and think this is most likely. But I would also be happy to see Cunningham replace Clarke in the defensive forward role.

                            I was one of those who called for Clarke to be given a go in the seniors, so on that account I am pleased that he's done so well.

                            As said in another thread, Clarke looked a bit lost with ball in hand. I think Cunningham may well be able to do the lock down job as well as Clarke, and his record shows that he is composed under pressure and can use the ball well.

                            There is also every possibility that Clarke will work his way into the speed of the game and handle those situations when he's part of the offence somewhat better than he did on Sunday. His skills are not all that bad. He just got caught in some tight situations. He's improved his disposal, especially his kicking, since coming to the Swans. I wouldn't be surprised if his improvement continues.

                            Looking ahead to the finals, I'm a bit concerned that our opponents will work out how to exploit Clarke and diminish his effectiveness. Once something like this gets highlighted the coaching staff of opposition teams go to work on it.

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                            • neilfws
                              Senior Player
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 1822

                              #15
                              Originally posted by MattW
                              I am finding it hard to get too excited until we've beaten St Kilda.
                              Same. They have the home advantage, and teams have a habit of rebounding after a poor week.
                              It only takes Higgins to pop up, or King to get some kicking mojo back: very poor of late but was more reliable in earlier rounds and has kicked 6.0 vs Adelaide.

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