AFL (non-Swans) off-season moves - 2022 edition

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  • Captain
    Captain of the Side
    • Feb 2004
    • 3602

    #16
    Originally posted by 707
    Can't see any way that Richmond can get both Taranto and Hopper this year, don't have enough draft capital.

    Also note that all 2022 picks will get pushed out by up to three early F/S matching and a Norf PP. Pick 12 will be become pick 13, pick 19 could end up pick 23. Our two first rounders will get pushed out one to four spots.

    GWS won't want precious salary absorbing Richmond rejects either and Soldo is one of those.
    Taranto isn't that good. Don't get me wrong, he is solid, but is certainly no star.

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    • Ludwig
      Veterans List
      • Apr 2007
      • 9359

      #17
      Hopper has officially asked to be trade to Richmond. So the double midfielder trade is on, I gues.

      This is the way it gets done for Taranto and Hopper. Richmond give up picks 12 + 18 +19 + 2023 first rounder. How did Richmond get pick 18, you might ask? We traded it to them for Noah Balta.

      Is everybody happy?

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      • bloodspirit
        Clubman
        • Apr 2015
        • 4448

        #18
        Originally posted by Ludwig
        Hopper has officially asked to be trade to Richmond. So the double midfielder trade is on, I gues.

        This is the way it gets done for Taranto and Hopper. Richmond give up picks 12 + 18 +19 + 2023 first rounder. How did Richmond get pick 18, you might ask? We traded it to them for Noah Balta.

        Is everybody happy?
        Where are we going to play Noah?
        All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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        • bloodspirit
          Clubman
          • Apr 2015
          • 4448

          #19
          Must sting Giants fans to read "Hopper, who has always had interest in joining a big Melbourne-based club.": Giant plus for Richmond Tigers as mid Jacob Hopper chooses Punt Rd as new home. I would smart at that if it were said about someone wanting to defect from the Swans. Wasn't Hopper in their leadership group? Wasn't he also an graduate of their 'Academy'? Or was he just in their 'zone'? I'm disgusted if it's true that he's always wanted to join a "big Melbourne-based club".
          All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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          • Ludwig
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2007
            • 9359

            #20
            Originally posted by bloodspirit
            Where are we going to play Noah?
            It's a good question. It's a question that answers more than it asks. And the fact that you can ask such a good question shows just how solid a team we've become.

            Noah can play forward, back and in the ruck, so a great player to have on our list. If we can't fit Noah on our list, then we shouldn't be in the trade game this year, and that's probably the case.

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            • i'm-uninformed2
              Reefer Madness
              • Oct 2003
              • 4653

              #21
              Originally posted by Ludwig
              Hopper has officially asked to be trade to Richmond. So the double midfielder trade is on, I gues.

              This is the way it gets done for Taranto and Hopper. Richmond give up picks 12 + 18 +19 + 2023 first rounder. How did Richmond get pick 18, you might ask? We traded it to them for Noah Balta.

              Is everybody happy?
              I would be. He's an explosive athletic beast. And to those that subsequently asked, if a certain forward retires at the end of the year, there we go. (I reckon he's slightly more natural as a defender, but hey)
              'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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              • 707
                Veterans List
                • Aug 2009
                • 6204

                #22
                You're not getting Balta for pick 18, end of fantasy.

                Even if Richmond give GWS all their available picks, currently 12, 19, 30 and next years first a likely mid/late teens first rounder, that doesn't seem sufficient for Taranto and Hopper. GWS won't want Richmond list cloggers.

                Gives GWS a mighty draft hand though, they'll likely trade later picks for Brisbane's first.

                Talk is that next year's draft is much stronger than this years.
                Last edited by 707; 8 September 2022, 06:21 PM.

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                • Markwebbos
                  Veterans List
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 7186

                  #23
                  I can’t see how Tigers can afford these two on top of Dusty’s Uber salary and surely no other club is stupid enough to take his salary on?

                  So I’m guessing Dusty retires and/or does a Hogan and tears his contract up to play somewhere else.

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                  • Markwebbos
                    Veterans List
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 7186

                    #24
                    Dusty’s just confirmed he’ll be at the Tigers next year!

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                    • dawson
                      Senior Player
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 1007

                      #25
                      Currently, we're the only team with 2 first-round draft picks. We have Melbourne's first round pick which came via the Dawson trade. If they go out in straight sets, it will be pick 14. Given how many teams would love that pick or our own first round pick (hopefully 18!!) it puts us in a great position. We could get something fantastic in return for it.

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                      • Aprilbr
                        Senior Player
                        • Oct 2016
                        • 1803

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Captain
                        Bloody Geelong and Richmond seem to be involved in everything. Very suss.
                        I recently posted this on the Trade thread but it seems more relevant here:

                        "I wish we had a salary cap like Richmond who can have players like Lynch and Dusty on mega deals and then can apparently still afford to bring in GWS stars, Taranto and Hopper, on big contracts. Call me a cynic but I'm pretty confident they have found a way to circumvent the Cap - probably through sponsor- connected payments in kind."

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                        • sharp9
                          Senior Player
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 2508

                          #27
                          To put a couple of cents in here…Taranto is crap. I have never seen him dominate a game. Ever. I can’t even recall him doing any “wow” moments like Chad or Blakey or Serong or at 20 young midfielders I could reel off the top of my head. 7 years at $700G apparently. Absolute madness
                          "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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                          • dawson
                            Senior Player
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 1007

                            #28
                            Originally posted by sharp9
                            To put a couple of cents in here…Taranto is crap. I have never seen him dominate a game. Ever. I can’t even recall him doing any “wow” moments like Chad or Blakey or Serong or at 20 young midfielders I could reel off the top of my head. 7 years at $700G apparently. Absolute madness
                            It is. Let them do deals like this so it takes hold of their salary cap and they're forced to dump good players.

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                            • 707
                              Veterans List
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 6204

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Markwebbos
                              Dusty’s just confirmed he’ll be at the Tigers next year!
                              Was always just a click bait story that gave the media something to talk about for four months. Buddy's contract negotiation was a fizzer for the media compared to the Dusty non story.

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                              Originally posted by Aprilbr
                              I recently posted this on the Trade thread but it seems more relevant here:

                              "I wish we had a salary cap like Richmond who can have players like Lynch and Dusty on mega deals and then can apparently still afford to bring in GWS stars, Taranto and Hopper, on big contracts. Call me a cynic but I'm pretty confident they have found a way to circumvent the Cap - probably through sponsor- connected payments in kind."
                              The same applies to Geelong, players sign on for unders but apparently get into lucrative can't fail property deals in the Geelong area. Pies have dodgy media deals via Maguire.

                              Richmond have had a few retirements and Cotchin and Jack have taken big pay cuts in their new one year deals. More interest is how they get Taranto and a contracted Hopper trades done. It will give GWS a powerful draft hand, pity they have to draft Vic kids!

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                              • Mark26
                                Senior Player
                                • Jan 2017
                                • 1535

                                #30
                                Originally posted by 707
                                Was always just a click bait story that gave the media something to talk about for four months. Buddy's contract negotiation was a fizzer for the media compared to the Dusty non story.

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                                The same applies to Geelong, players sign on for unders but apparently get into lucrative can't fail property deals in the Geelong area. Pies have dodgy media deals via Maguire.

                                Richmond have had a few retirements and Cotchin and Jack have taken big pay cuts in their new one year deals. More interest is how they get Taranto and a contracted Hopper trades done. It will give GWS a powerful draft hand, pity they have to draft Vic kids!
                                GWS are caught in this sick cycle each year. They draft impressive talent and develop them only to inevitably lose them. They are essentially a feeder club for the Vic establishment. It must be dispiriting. I think it's like losing Dawson every year.

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