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  • caj23
    Senior Player
    • Aug 2003
    • 2462

    General footy chat AFL (non-Swans) off-season moves - 2022 edition

    In response to KTigers, apparently if you're a Victorian team you can have everything

    Melbourne are looking at adding Brodie Grundy, without losing anyone, while Richmond think they can get Taranto and Hopper this off season, the Cats want Grundy and Hopper

    FWIW it seems we had the cap space to keep Jordan, he just preferred to live in Adelaide
  • RogueSwan
    McVeigh for Brownlow
    • Apr 2003
    • 4602

    #2
    Originally posted by caj23
    In response to KTigers, apparently if you're a Victorian team you can have everything

    Melbourne are looking at adding Brodie Grundy, without losing anyone, ...
    I'm pretty sure they are planning on bringing him in because Jackson wants to go to Freo
    Originally posted by caj23
    ...while Richmond think they can get Taranto and Hopper this off season...
    Is that if that get Dusty's millions off their books?
    "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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    • barry
      Veterans List
      • Jan 2003
      • 8499

      #3
      Originally posted by caj23
      ... while Richmond think they can get Taranto and Hopper this off season, the Cats want Grundy and Hopper
      Richmond are funny. They have been shopping Dusty around simply because he's going to take $1.3m per year of cap space for the next two years because of a back ended contract.
      Surely they werent expecting anyone to take him for that. He's now a $600k player at best due to his injury issues and age. If anyone took him, Tiges would be paying almost half you'd think... and thats a good deal for them.

      They may get Taranto and Hopper, but they'd need to offload dusty, and probably delist one of Cotchin or Reiwoldt. I can see why Richmond are into them, their old midfield of Cotchin and Martin are stuffed as seen in the EF.
      But I'm not sure the answer is to replace them with a midfield made up of the B list midfield of a team that finished 15th. (Assuming they are behind Kelly, Tom Green, and Ward, Coniglio which could be debatable)

      Suffice to say, if Dusty stays at the tiges, then they may attract one half decent player, but they wont be a contender for a while.

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      • barry
        Veterans List
        • Jan 2003
        • 8499

        #4
        Originally posted by caj23
        Melbourne are looking at adding Brodie Grundy
        Thats a real mismatch of team for player. They would be far better going after an Amartey or similar fringe ruckman/forward.

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        • KTigers
          Senior Player
          • Apr 2012
          • 2499

          #5
          Originally posted by caj23
          In response to KTigers, apparently if you're a Victorian team you can have everything

          Melbourne are looking at adding Brodie Grundy, without losing anyone, while Richmond think they can get Taranto and Hopper this off season, the Cats want Grundy and Hopper

          FWIW it seems we had the cap space to keep Jordan, he just preferred to live in Adelaide
          The interesting thing I've noticed is all this talk of Hopper "going home". Well, Hopper is from Leeton. I've been there (it's a nice
          town actually) a couple times and one thing I did notice about it is that it's in NSW. It's not actually a suburb of Melbourne or a
          town next to Geelong. This Vic centric-ness thing is really getting ridiculous. Now they (or at least their media) are claiming
          towns that aren't even in Victoria.

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          • caj23
            Senior Player
            • Aug 2003
            • 2462

            #6
            So according to reports, Richmond think they can keep Dusty and recruit Tarranto and Hopper.

            If they can manage that (as well as Lynch on big $'s) the "you have to lose players every year" brigade might have to change their tune

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            • Ludwig
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2007
              • 9359

              #7
              Originally posted by caj23
              So according to reports, Richmond think they can keep Dusty and recruit Tarranto and Hopper.

              If they can manage that (as well as Lynch on big $'s) the "you have to lose players every year" brigade might have to change their tune
              Surely Shai Bolton must have signed for big money. And they still have Dion Prestia, who I think is on around 800k, for another 2 years.

              Why do some clubs seem to have a bottomless pit, filled of cash?

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              • Captain
                Captain of the Side
                • Feb 2004
                • 3602

                #8
                Bloody Geelong and Richmond seem to be involved in everything. Very suss.

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                • liz
                  Veteran
                  Site Admin
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 16758

                  #9
                  Salary cap aside, I reckon Richmond would struggle to get just one of Hopper and Taranto in trade-wise, let alone both. GWS are supposedly asking for two first round picks for the out of contract Taranto. Hopper's trade value probably isn't that far off Taranto's, particularly since he is still in contract. Two first round picks is a bit vague since there's a wide difference in value between pick 1 and pick 18. But Cerra went for pick 5 (6?) last year, which sets a reasonable standard for the kind of value of a decent but not top tier midfielder. Richmond doesn't have the threat of using the PSD to drive down trade value in the way the Crows have done in recent years.

                  As things stand, Richmond have picks 12, 19, 30 and some very late ones. By re-signing Cotchin and Riewoldt for next season they are signalling that they aren't planning on (expecting) their first round pick next year to be in the first handful.

                  So who are they willing to trade out this off-season to give them the trade capital to acquire both Taranto and Hopper? My guess is they'll only be able to get one of the two.

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                  • Captain
                    Captain of the Side
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 3602

                    #10
                    Originally posted by liz
                    Salary cap aside, I reckon Richmond would struggle to get just one of Hopper and Taranto in trade-wise, let alone both. GWS are supposedly asking for two first round picks for the out of contract Taranto. Hopper's trade value probably isn't that far off Taranto's, particularly since he is still in contract. Two first round picks is a bit vague since there's a wide difference in value between pick 1 and pick 18. But Cerra went for pick 5 (6?) last year, which sets a reasonable standard for the kind of value of a decent but not top tier midfielder. Richmond doesn't have the threat of using the PSD to drive down trade value in the way the Crows have done in recent years.

                    As things stand, Richmond have picks 12, 19, 30 and some very late ones. By re-signing Cotchin and Riewoldt for next season they are signalling that they aren't planning on (expecting) their first round pick next year to be in the first handful.

                    So who are they willing to trade out this off-season to give them the trade capital to acquire both Taranto and Hopper? My guess is they'll only be able to get one of the two.
                    I have heard Ivan Solo mentioned.

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                    • liz
                      Veteran
                      Site Admin
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 16758

                      #11
                      I heard his name too, but he's hardly blue-chip trade currency. GWS want another ruckman so they may accept him as partial payment for one of Hopper or Taranto but he's not going to be a straight swap for either.

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                      • Captain
                        Captain of the Side
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 3602

                        #12
                        Solo + Pick 12 for one of them
                        Pick 19 + future first for the other?

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                        • gloveski
                          Senior Player
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 1018

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Captain
                          Solo + Pick 12 for one of them
                          Pick 19 + future first for the other?
                          Be pretty close I reckon


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                          • barry
                            Veterans List
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 8499

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Captain
                            Solo + Pick 12 for one of them
                            Pick 19 + future first for the other?
                            Giants want two first round picks. I dont think Solo is a first round pick, and not sure why Giants would want another ruckman on their list, they have heaps.
                            Pick 12 + future first round. or
                            Pick 12 and 19 + future 2nd/3rd round

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                            • 707
                              Veterans List
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 6204

                              #15
                              Can't see any way that Richmond can get both Taranto and Hopper this year, don't have enough draft capital.

                              Also note that all 2022 picks will get pushed out by up to three early F/S matching and a Norf PP. Pick 12 will be become pick 13, pick 19 could end up pick 23. Our two first rounders will get pushed out one to four spots.

                              GWS won't want precious salary absorbing Richmond rejects either and Soldo is one of those.

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