AFL (non-Swans) off-season moves - 2022 edition

[barry]

He has a bit of Jack Watts smell about him. If north get 2 1st rounders for him. Take them. Two very good players is better than one very,very good player, and hedges your bets a bit.

[Ludwig]

Norf should move JHF for Port's pick 8 and next years first. He's never been settled, shown bad body language and arguing with team mates on the field. Could turn quite toxic if they knock back a trade.

Enough muck happening at Norf with no coach, best just wipe the slate clean, take two first rounders and run.

I agree. Given where North are, 2 first rounders are better than 1 cranky star, who will looking to leave at every opportunity. It's a far deal and a good deal for North.

[i'm-uninformed2]

I thought I’d turn on trade radio on the drive home from golf for a laugh, and it was even better than expected.

Stephen Silvagni, who’s apparently a list, trade and draft expert, was talking about big trades past and couldn’t remember Tim Kelly’s name. “ Err, that guy, he was a midfielder, who was at, um, West Coast, no Geelong, and went West . . . Umm, his name was . . . He was a midfielder.”

Then they brought Matt Randell on, who suggested Mitch Georgiades to West Coast could be part of Port getting the picks they need for Horne-Francis. When Damien Barrett asked how, Randell then said: “I don’t know, I haven’t really studied West Coast’s draft hand.”

I swear, if you’re ever feeling down, tune in and you’ll instantly feel better about yourself.

[Captain]

I feel sorry for North. JHF seems to have a poor attitude and a sook that he went to a bottom club. Hope they hold him to his contract or absolutely rinse Port.

[barry]

SEN has a lot of hours to fill.

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I feel sorry for North. JHF seems to have a poor attitude and a sook that he went to a bottom club. Hope they hold him to his contract or absolutely rinse Port.

Nah, I hope norf fold.

[KTigers]

Nah, I hope norf fold.

Yep, a few douchebags from N.Melbourne caught the bus up here and booed Adam during his last game.
That's enough for most of us to want to fold them.

[The Big Cat]

Nobody wants to go to north. I think it was Titus O'Reilly who said that even their much vaunted war chest had asked for a trade.

[707]

I thought I’d turn on trade radio on the drive home from golf for a laugh, and it was even better than expected.

Stephen Silvagni, who’s apparently a list, trade and draft expert, was talking about big trades past and couldn’t remember Tim Kelly’s name. “ Err, that guy, he was a midfielder, who was at, um, West Coast, no Geelong, and went West . . . Umm, his name was . . . He was a midfielder.”

Then they brought Matt Randell on, who suggested Mitch Georgiades to West Coast could be part of Port getting the picks they need for Horne-Francis. When Damien Barrett asked how, Randell then said: “I don’t know, I haven’t really studied West Coast’s draft hand.”

I swear, if you’re ever feeling down, tune in and you’ll instantly feel better about yourself.

Some of the trades they suggest are laughable for former list managers.

The rest of the former players on that show are bordering on idiots, show a complete lack of understanding about trade rules, points system, FA etc

The adverts are good though LOL

[goswannies]

I feel sorry for North. JHF seems to have a poor attitude and a sook that he went to a bottom club. Hope they hold him to his contract or absolutely rinse Port.

The one thing with the draft - and this is unavoidable - is that for a couple of years you don’t get to choose your workplace. I guess that this happens in the armed forces (you can get posted to places you don’t want to be) some other vocations. But he didn’t choose to go to North and likely wouldn’t have. I would hate to be told where I had to work. But then again, if I was in his money, I’d probably work anywhere … even North!

That said, he did choose to nominate for the draft, knowing full well that he could end up anywhere. That’s part of his job.

It makes a mockery of free agency that after one year in the system a player can turn around and demand to go to a club of his choice.

[707]

Nobody wants to go to north. I think it was Titus O'Reilly who said that even their much vaunted war chest had asked for a trade.

Classic Titus.

You get the feeling that as the smallest fish in the biggest pond, in this modern era Norf will never become relevant again, had one big signing in a decade and he may well be found to have been a naughty boy!

The way player movement has evolved, the big clubs will dominate, it's not cyclic, I think in recent seasons we've passed a point where the equalisation mechanisms are now failing the league.

That a GWS academy player wants to leave to 'play for a big Melbourne club', that the best pick GWS received for Jeremy Cameron was used on Bruhn who after two years wants to go home to Geelong for less than the pick GWS used to draft him, that after one season the number one pick wants to go home, that Suns are giving away a pick 10 player and pick 7 for a future second a year after doing similar with former number 9 pick Will Brodie, that Richmond can give a bag of picks to extract two very good mids from GWS thereby fast tracking a refresh and avoiding potential draft failures, that clubs like Carlton, Richmond and Geelong don't seem to have a salary cap as they fit in any number of big contract players, that go home has become a valid excuse to leave a club and that you then say who at home you want to be traded to .....

It's become a mess, the big Melbourne clubs are here to dominate, the small Vic clubs like Norf and Saints are doomed, I fear for GWS and Suns longer term if they continue to be bottom half clubs, they're getting little traction

[Foreign Legion]

Classic Titus.

You get the feeling that as the smallest fish in the biggest pond, in this modern era Norf will never become relevant again, had one big signing in a decade and he may well be found to have been a naughty boy!

The way player movement has evolved, the big clubs will dominate, it's not cyclic, I think in recent seasons we've passed a point where the equalisation mechanisms are now failing the league.

That a GWS academy player wants to leave to 'play for a big Melbourne club', that the best pick GWS received for Jeremy Cameron was used on Bruhn who after two years wants to go home to Geelong for less than the pick GWS used to draft him, that after one season the number one pick wants to go home, that Suns are giving away a pick 10 player and pick 7 for a future second a year after doing similar with former number 9 pick Will Brodie, that Richmond can give a bag of picks to extract two very good mids from GWS thereby fast tracking a refresh and avoiding potential draft failures, that clubs like Carlton, Richmond and Geelong don't seem to have a salary cap as they fit in any number of big contract players, that go home has become a valid excuse to leave a club and that you then say who at home you want to be traded to .....

It's become a mess, the big Melbourne clubs are here to dominate, the small Vic clubs like Norf and Saints are doomed, I fear for GWS and Suns longer term if they continue to be bottom half clubs, they're getting little traction

Great comments 707 -- free agency works for top 4 clubs but works against bottom 8 clubs.

North are in very deep crap IMHO. I think the chances of Clarkson and Fagan coaching again (no matter what happens) is about 40% and 60%. Clarkson less because he was the no.1 man.

No player is going to want to go to North at the moment. So any trades with them will need to be picks. Port will have to pay up big time for JHF - right so. Although if I was North I'd be secretly be glad to be rid of him.

[KTigers]

Agree, 707. The whole thing is a joke. That the premiers can end up with Cameron AND Bruhn (after GWS have done all the early work
and got him off training wheels) just says it all. In a couple years Richmond (or Geelong) will no doubt end up with the players GWS
will get with the picks they'll receive for Taranto and Hopper. GWS and GC have to pay a couple hundred extra K a year for players that
seemingly (and strangely) the big Vic clubs pay under market rates for. This stuff really takes the gloss out of footy sometimes I tell you.
Meanwhile half the footy world is getting all worked up cos poor old Clarko has been "blindsided" and mightn't receive the entitled white
man concept of "natural justice".

[Kafka's Ghost]

I thought I’d turn on trade radio on the drive home from golf for a laugh, and it was even better than expected.

Stephen Silvagni, who’s apparently a list, trade and draft expert, was talking about big trades past and couldn’t remember Tim Kelly’s name. “ Err, that guy, he was a midfielder, who was at, um, West Coast, no Geelong, and went West . . . Umm, his name was . . . He was a midfielder.”

Then they brought Matt Randell on, who suggested Mitch Georgiades to West Coast could be part of Port getting the picks they need for Horne-Francis. When Damien Barrett asked how, Randell then said: “I don’t know, I haven’t really studied West Coast’s draft hand.”

I swear, if you’re ever feeling down, tune in and you’ll instantly feel better about yourself.

Stephen Silvagni would be one of the most inarticulate people to ever sit behind a microphone. I remember his comments during the 2005 Finals’ Series as completely cringeworthy. Astonishing that anyone lets him anywhere near a mic.


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[barry]

Stephen Silvagni would be one of the most inarticulate people to ever sit behind a microphone. I remember his comments during the 2005 Finals’ Series as completely cringeworthy. Astonishing that anyone lets him anywhere near a mic.


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His one claim to fame was lost manager for GWS from inception to the list that made the 2019 GF.

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^list manager

[barry]

Yep, a few douchebags from N.Melbourne caught the bus up here and booed Adam during his last game.
That's enough for most of us to want to fold them.

Three things are turned against Norf in the past month:
1. Losing Clarkson. No way he can coach again.
2. Tassie team is faultering. With a bit of analysis, the economics are not there.
3. 1st round draft pick wants to leave.

So, unviable in Melbourne. Door agar in Tassie. Need access to players (Tassie academy?)