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  • Ruck'n'Roll
    Ego alta, ergo ictus
    • Nov 2003
    • 3990

    Originally posted by Foreign Legion
    We can blame the thankfully departed Rhodes Scholar for that. People in high positions like that should be above hatred/bias etc but he never got over it.

    Yes, I forgot the trade ban and a player we drafted missing 12 weeks due to off field suspension. Total vindictiveness. But anything to help The Pies and Dees.
    I'd suggest the Buddy penalties imposed were pretty much exactly the sort of behaviour you'd expect from a rampant narcissist whose wishes are being thwarted, not saying Fitzpatrick is by the way. Just hypothesising based my experience with narcissists in a work setting.

    Regarding the Tippett 12 week ban FL, you need to remember/understand that our own misbehaviour (we had Greg Williams sign 2 contracts) set the benchmark for the penalty.
    It was poetic justice being pinged for that.

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    • 707
      Veterans List
      • Aug 2009
      • 6204

      Originally posted by troyjones2525
      So Geelong dominates us to win a flag and now adds more young talent plus collecting pick 7 in the upcoming draft... seems fair... gotta admire their recruitment team.
      Bowes probably already signed up for a nice property development with his $850k x2!

      This is absolutely wrong, you win the flag comprehensively then you get a former pick 10 player and a pick 7 because you can somehow absorb his huge contract in your salary cap. Gold Coast had to dump players with picks two years running, what a **** up

      Geelong get Bowes, a top 7 pick, former first rounders Henry and Bruhn and suggested they are in the running for DFA Conor McKenna!

      The AFL equalisation policies are horrendously broken and Vics want to whinge about Northern academies, grrrr

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      • KTigers
        Senior Player
        • Apr 2012
        • 2499

        Not footy but today Aaron Judge of the New York Yankees set a new record for home runs (62) in a single season in the
        American League. There are three National League players who have hit more than 62 homers in a season but all did it in
        the steroid era and all have substantial asterisks next to their name. So many regard Judge's achievement as the true
        all time record.

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        • KTigers
          Senior Player
          • Apr 2012
          • 2499

          But back onto Essendon.... my Bombers fan mate just texted me to say that Brad Scott is Dyson Heppell's seventh coach.
          Plus he's also seen five presidents and four CEO's. What a total shambles the Bombers are.

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          • i'm-uninformed2
            Reefer Madness
            • Oct 2003
            • 4653

            Originally posted by KTigers
            But back onto Essendon.... my Bombers fan mate just texted me to say that Brad Scott is Dyson Heppell's seventh coach.
            Plus he's also seen five presidents and four CEO's. What a total shambles the Bombers are.
            Imagine walking into Essendon as a player 10 years ago. You had all that - and the drugs saga to top it off. What chance do you have?

            Whatever our strengths or weaknesses as a club, you thank you’re lucky stars we’re well run with a stable board, admin and coaching team. Since the days of Richard Colless, it’s been the same.

            I’ve mentioned on here before I got lucky to know him a little back when he was President through some work. I wouldn’t have spoken to him for five years but I felt compelled to swap a couple of texts with him pre-GF just to say thanks.
            'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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            • Ludwig
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2007
              • 9359

              Originally posted by KTigers
              Not footy but today Aaron Judge of the New York Yankees set a new record for home runs (62) in a single season in the
              American League. There are three National League players who have hit more than 62 homers in a season but all did it in
              the steroid era and all have substantial asterisks next to their name. So many regard Judge's achievement as the true
              all time record.
              Are you suggesting (and I think it would be a good suggestion) that Geelong should have an asterisk after their premiership victories for playing with a salary cap on steroids?

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              • KTigers
                Senior Player
                • Apr 2012
                • 2499

                Originally posted by Ludwig
                Are you suggesting (and I think it would be a good suggestion) that Geelong should have an asterisk after their premiership victories for playing with a salary cap on steroids?
                Everything about Geelong has an asterisk attached to it. Tomahawk's seven farms, the Selwood Brothers Free Kick Institute,
                Zac Touhy's moustache, the fact that Robbo and Danger went fishing together, Chris Scott, all the Ablett's except for Luke,
                all the strange looking tall blonde people they have in the team, their weird-shaped ground. And all of it hiding under the
                Salary Sombrero. There is nothing right about that footy club. And then there is the actual town itself. Yikes.

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                • Markwebbos
                  Veterans List
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 7186

                  I’m hoping we might be able to prise pick 7 from Geelong’s arthritic fingers if they need to split it to get Bruhn and Henry through the door.

                  14 and 17 for 7 seems about right

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                  • troyjones2525
                    Swans Fanatic!
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 2908

                    Originally posted by 707
                    Bowes probably already signed up for a nice property development with his $850k x2!

                    This is absolutely wrong, you win the flag comprehensively then you get a former pick 10 player and a pick 7 because you can somehow absorb his huge contract in your salary cap. Gold Coast had to dump players with picks two years running, what a **** up

                    Geelong get Bowes, a top 7 pick, former first rounders Henry and Bruhn and suggested they are in the running for DFA Conor McKenna!

                    The AFL equalisation policies are horrendously broken and Vics want to whinge about Northern academies, grrrr
                    +1

                    Sent from my SM-G998B using Tapatalk

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                    • troyjones2525
                      Swans Fanatic!
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 2908

                      Originally posted by Markwebbos
                      I’m hoping we might be able to prise pick 7 from Geelong’s arthritic fingers if they need to split it to get Bruhn and Henry through the door.

                      14 and 17 for 7 seems about right
                      Depends on if there is someone up that end of the draft we really want. Not too sure who it would be???

                      Sent from my SM-G998B using Tapatalk

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                      • Roadrunner
                        Senior Player
                        • Jan 2018
                        • 1477

                        Originally posted by Ludwig
                        Are you suggesting (and I think it would be a good suggestion) that Geelong should have an asterisk after their premiership victories for playing with a salary cap on steroids?
                        Well, the AFL really need to do something because what goes on at some of these big clubs is beyond a joke now.
                        Either they are serious about equilization and a fair salary cap for all clubs and bring in independent auditors, or else the bottom 4-6 clubs will struggle just like in the EPL. We need a strong leadership at the helm if we really want to give every club a fair go. It’s impossible they don’t know what’s going on- a kid in primary school can add up the figures!

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                        • barry
                          Veterans List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 8499

                          What is obvious is that GWS, who have held out for a long time, are now a feeder club like Gold Coast is. They dont have enough cap space to hold on to players and they have to pay overs to keep players.
                          They, like GC, wont be competitive until they get a permanent cap extension. There is nothing strange about that. They simply need to pay more in direct salary than other established teams, to keep players.

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                          • i'm-uninformed2
                            Reefer Madness
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 4653

                            Originally posted by barry
                            What is obvious is that GWS, who have held out for a long time, are now a feeder club like Gold Coast is. They dont have enough cap space to hold on to players and they have to pay overs to keep players.
                            They, like GC, wont be competitive until they get a permanent cap extension. There is nothing strange about that. They simply need to pay more in direct salary than other established teams, to keep players.
                            My understanding of some of the Swans’ reticence to Tasmania stems from what is happening with GWS, and the view it is now in the most difficult position it has been in since its formation.

                            Its real membership numbers are sinking (don’t get sucked in by the headline numbers which include thousands of giveaways), crowds are slumping, its salary cap is busted, its financial position is seriously weak, its prospects for on field improvement are dim given its cap constraints and poor capacity for development since the COVID cuts to footy department spend, and AFL participation rates in western Sydney have flatlined.

                            It is now likely to require a bigger financial handout than anticipated for longer than anticipated and is perceived as in a weaker position than even the Gold Coast and considerably worse than Norf.
                            'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                            • Blood Fever
                              Veterans List
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 4048

                              Originally posted by barry
                              What is obvious is that GWS, who have held out for a long time, are now a feeder club like Gold Coast is. They dont have enough cap space to hold on to players and they have to pay overs to keep players.
                              They, like GC, wont be competitive until they get a permanent cap extension. There is nothing strange about that. They simply need to pay more in direct salary than other established teams, to keep players.
                              Basket case on a par with North. Millions wasted by AFL.

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                              • Aprilbr
                                Senior Player
                                • Oct 2016
                                • 1803

                                Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
                                My understanding of some of the Swans’ reticence to Tasmania stems from what is happening with GWS, and the view it is now in the most difficult position it has been in since its formation.

                                Its real membership numbers are sinking (don’t get sucked in by the headline numbers which include thousands of giveaways), crowds are slumping, its salary cap is busted, its financial position is seriously weak, its prospects for on field improvement are dim given its cap constraints and poor capacity for development since the COVID cuts to footy department spend, and AFL participation rates in western Sydney have flatlined.

                                It is now likely to require a bigger financial handout than anticipated for longer than anticipated and is perceived as in a weaker position than even the Gold Coast and considerably worse than Norf.
                                Yes, GWS have gone south quickly after their run of reasonable success. Developing clubs clearly need a retention allowance and the AFL needs to get serious about enforcement of the Cap. Its undermining the equalisation policy and the integrity of the system. Get those forensic accountants in there! There will be a paper trail to follow as they don't do brown bags of cash under the counter anymore.

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