Rnd6 vs Geelong at GMHBA, Saturday 22 April, 7:25 PM (pre-match discussion)

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  • wolftone57
    Veterans List
    • Aug 2008
    • 5857

    #61
    Originally posted by Blood Fever
    Can't see how Cunningham goes out. His defensive forward job has been ok and he provides experience. Clarke has only played one AFL game.
    Cunningham's defensive work has not been great at all. Rioli was basically Richmond's best player. Playing on Harry. He also had Byrne-Jones and was totally destroyed. The Dees Half Backs had a ball. They got so much drive out of there you would think it was a Macca's Drive Through. Rivers, Sparrow and McVee murdered us. At different times he was on all of them. Clarke coming back in tells the tale. Harry is finished but he is one of Horse's favs so stays.

    There comes a time, I think it was last year, when a player runs out of points and Harry has run put of points.

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    • Blood Fever
      Veterans List
      • Apr 2007
      • 4050

      #62
      Originally posted by wolftone57
      Cunningham's defensive work has not been great at all. Rioli was basically Richmond's best player. Playing on Harry. He also had Byrne-Jones and was totally destroyed. The Dees Half Backs had a ball. They got so much drive out of there you would think it was a Macca's Drive Through. Rivers, Sparrow and McVee murdered us. At different times he was on all of them. Clarke coming back in tells the tale. Harry is finished but he is one of Horse's favs so stays.

      There comes a time, I think it was last year, when a player runs out of points and Harry has run put of points.
      Not sure why you have it in for him so much. Gross exaggeration as to how he is travelling. No way he would be in team if he was going half as bad as you suggest. Nasty.

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      • wolftone57
        Veterans List
        • Aug 2008
        • 5857

        #63
        Originally posted by Blood Fever
        Not sure why you have it in for him so much. Gross exaggeration as to how he is travelling. No way he would be in team if he was going half as bad as you suggest. Nasty.
        Not nasty at all. He is not travelling well. He is in the team because of his experience. But now Clarke is back he is pretty well superfluous to needs. He played VFL last year for a good reason. He just wasn't good enough. I have loved Harry's journey but the end comes for every player and his is here. I remember when Pebbles became too slow to chase. So many people said give him another go. They did and it didn't work. He was gone. I am seeing the same with Harry. His ability to chase and shut down a player is minimal now. He has lost more than a metre of pace.


        Harry is not benefitting the team. He touched the ball 3 times against Port. He played on Houston who was VERY good, even kicked a goal. He has touched the ball 9,9,3,7 and his combined rating over 4 weeks in 35. That tells the story. If he was impacting like he did earlier in the season again poor opponents then I would be happy. He kicked 2 in the first week but has not managed a goal since. Ryan Clarke was so successful last year because he not only strangled his opponent but also scored on him. Essentially, if you are a forward, even a defensive forward, the idea of being a forward is to score goals. Harry has managed 2 goals in his first outing and nothing since. He has also played on damaging half back who have been, that's right DAMAGING. Houston, Rioli, Rivers etc the list goes on.

        I just believe we have better options and his role is now redundant now Clarke is back.

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        • Blood Fever
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2007
          • 4050

          #64
          Originally posted by wolftone57
          Not nasty at all. He is not travelling well. He is in the team because of his experience. But now Clarke is back he is pretty well superfluous to needs. He played VFL last year for a good reason. He just wasn't good enough. I have loved Harry's journey but the end comes for every player and his is here. I remember when Pebbles became too slow to chase. So many people said give him another go. They did and it didn't work. He was gone. I am seeing the same with Harry. His ability to chase and shut down a player is minimal now. He has lost more than a metre of pace.


          Harry is not benefitting the team. He touched the ball 3 times against Port. He played on Houston who was VERY good, even kicked a goal. He has touched the ball 9,9,3,7 and his combined rating over 4 weeks in 35. That tells the story. If he was impacting like he did earlier in the season again poor opponents then I would be happy. He kicked 2 in the first week but has not managed a goal since. Ryan Clarke was so successful last year because he not only strangled his opponent but also scored on him. Essentially, if you are a forward, even a defensive forward, the idea of being a forward is to score goals. Harry has managed 2 goals in his first outing and nothing since. He has also played on damaging half back who have been, that's right DAMAGING. Houston, Rioli, Rivers etc the list goes on.

          I just believe we have better options and his role is now redundant now Clarke is back.
          Will probably play back this week where he has played his best footy. Had injuries last year and couldn't get back into a winning team that made the GF. Probably not in our best 22 now but not finished yet and worth his place on the list.

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          • Blood Fever
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2007
            • 4050

            #65
            He's also signed up for this year and next. 2 year contract signed September last year. Still well regarded.

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            • lwjoyner
              Regular in the Side
              • Nov 2004
              • 952

              #66
              why no gould

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              • Ludwig
                Veterans List
                • Apr 2007
                • 9359

                #67
                Originally posted by wolftone57
                Cunningham's defensive work has not been great at all. .
                Harry set up a couple of goals with some in tight handballing. But I agree that he hasn't been great this year, nor have JMac and Stevens.

                If Konstanty does well in the VFL, we might see him replace Harry in the coming weeks.

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                • rojo
                  Opti-pessi-misti
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 1103

                  #68
                  Originally posted by lwjoyner
                  why no gould
                  Probably because Francis has more ALF level experience than Gould and can be used both back and forward.

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                  • Auntie.Gerald
                    Veterans List
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 6480

                    #69
                    Hows everyone feeling leading into this crucial stay in the hunt game?

                    4 points at a premium against a team also struggling with injuries but not as costly as ours.

                    Can we design in a massive upset ?
                    "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                    • Roadrunner
                      Senior Player
                      • Jan 2018
                      • 1481

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                      Hows everyone feeling leading into this crucial stay in the hunt game?

                      4 points at a premium against a team also struggling with injuries but not as costly as ours.

                      Can we design in a massive upset ?
                      Can’t see it unfortunately Auntie. Our backline is awfully undersized, and bookies don’t often get it very wrong. Also, while our record at the Cattery is good, a lot of our youngsters haven’t played there.

                      But here’s hoping!????

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                      • Swannette
                        Regular in the Side
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 832

                        #71
                        We’re here, ready to support the boys all the way!!


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                        Patterns emerge, but do they mean anything? No.

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                        • Kafka's Ghost
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Sep 2017
                          • 903

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                          Hows everyone feeling leading into this crucial stay in the hunt game?

                          4 points at a premium against a team also struggling with injuries but not as costly as ours.

                          Can we design in a massive upset ?
                          Quietly confident, despite the injury situation.


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                          • RogueSwan
                            McVeigh for Brownlow
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 4602

                            #73
                            No expectation of a win is a good spot for our boys to be in. It is a similar position to our previous wins at the pork barrel

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                            "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                            • Hotpotato
                              Senior Player
                              • Jun 2014
                              • 2271

                              #74
                              On paper, it looks overwhelmingly an easy win for the Cats, however the young Swans are growing in confidence, playing with flair and dare so it could be closer than the bookies are forecasting.

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                              • Ludwig
                                Veterans List
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 9359

                                #75
                                Thanks to quantum tunneling, our chances are better than nil.

                                Where's the Wombat when you need him?

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