Rnd 20, vs Essendon at Marvel, on Saturday 29 July, 7:25 PM

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  • AB Swannie
    Senior Player
    • Mar 2017
    • 1579

    #16
    We haven’t found the right sub all year. We’ve basically been using our 23rd best player in that role but it is a fairly specialist position in my view. I think the best subs are smaller, quicker, outside players. Corey Warner is possibly our best option we’ve used so far. I’d have liked to have seen Hugo Hall Kahan be given this role at some point. Dylan Stephens once had the attributes but his confidence seems to be in tatters.

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    • gloveski
      Senior Player
      • Jan 2003
      • 1018

      #17
      Originally posted by AB Swannie
      We haven’t found the right sub all year. We’ve basically been using our 23rd best player in that role but it is a fairly specialist position in my view. I think the best subs are smaller, quicker, outside players. Corey Warner is possibly our best option we’ve used so far. I’d have liked to have seen Hugo Hall Kahan be given this role at some point. Dylan Stephens once had the attributes but his confidence seems to be in tatters.
      Most teams all year have had better 2nd halves than us . Freo had there chances but at the moment simply are not good enough , a better team would have blown us off the park . I think we need to use someone that can add run and carry . Poor Clarke got like 3 minutes on the ground but I don’t think he is the answer he simply doesn’t have the leg speed


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      • RogueSwan
        McVeigh for Brownlow
        • Apr 2003
        • 4602

        #18
        Originally posted by gloveski
        ... Poor Clarke got like 3 minutes on the ground but I don’t think he is the answer he simply doesn’t have the leg speed
        He does seem like the type who just runs and runs all game but doesn't have that flat out top speed. A bit like Hanners in that respect (only).
        What would be ideal would be another Tom Papley who is happy just playing the fourth quarter each week.
        "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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        • Roadrunner
          Senior Player
          • Jan 2018
          • 1481

          #19
          Originally posted by gloveski
          Most teams all year have had better 2nd halves than us . Freo had there chances but at the moment simply are not good enough , a better team would have blown us off the park . I think we need to use someone that can add run and carry . Poor Clarke got like 3 minutes on the ground but I don’t think he is the answer he simply doesn’t have the leg speed


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          Yes, most games we’ve been cack in 2nd half. What impressed me in the Freo game was that we were able to wrestle a bit of the momentum back and keep in front- something we’ve had difficulty with.

          Agreed with you re Clarke: can tag, can snag the odd goal but has no leg speed so not much value as a sub. Corey is our best bet at the moment, though I’d give HHK a go.

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          • waswan
            Senior Player
            • Oct 2015
            • 2047

            #20
            Stringers out yeeww

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            • The Big Cat
              On the veteran's list
              • Apr 2006
              • 2356

              #21
              Originally posted by waswan
              Stringers out yeeww
              No change for us. 3,4,10 and 47 emergencies. Surely Dyl is sub.
              Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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              • Mel_C
                Veterans List
                • Jan 2003
                • 4470

                #22
                Razor Ray is umpiring. Hopefully he wants to piss off the Essendon supporters!

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                • Blood Fever
                  Veterans List
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 4050

                  #23
                  Yes. He would revel in the boos of an angry Bomber crowd.

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                  • Mark26
                    Senior Player
                    • Jan 2017
                    • 1535

                    #24
                    Originally posted by The Big Cat
                    No change for us. 3,4,10 and 47 emergencies. Surely Dyl is sub.
                    I'm hoping Stephens is our sub and has his mojo back. He's had some good patches for us. I'm not ready to give up on him yet. Hopefully the kid can put it together with us and not with a rival team.

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                    • Thunder Shaker
                      Aut vincere aut mori
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 4202

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Roadrunner
                      Yes, most games we’ve been cack in 2nd half.
                      We've only won six second halves this year: R1 vs Gold Coast (20), R2 vs Hawthorn (45), R5 vs Richmond (23), R7 vs GWS (9), R11 vs Carlton (20), R15 vs West Coast (103).

                      Though we also lost a few second halves by small margins: R4 vs Port Adelaide (2 - their winning margin, ouch), R9 vs Fremantle (4), R18 vs Western Bulldogs (1), R19 vs Fremantle (5).
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                      • ugg
                        Can you feel it?
                        Site Admin
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 15970

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Thunder Shaker
                        We've only won six second halves this year: R1 vs Gold Coast (20), R2 vs Hawthorn (45), R5 vs Richmond (23), R7 vs GWS (9), R11 vs Carlton (20), R15 vs West Coast (103).

                        Though we also lost a few second halves by small margins: R4 vs Port Adelaide (2 - their winning margin, ouch), R9 vs Fremantle (4), R18 vs Western Bulldogs (1), R19 vs Fremantle (5).
                        Curiously we won 19 of the 22 second halves in the regular season last year
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                        • Ruck'n'Roll
                          Ego alta, ergo ictus
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 3990

                          #27
                          Originally posted by lwjoyner
                          need to play a genuine ruck Dons rucks are tall. If ladhams and hickey are not fir bring in mcandrew.
                          Another week with no rucks in the 1st's. Ludwig must be loving this.

                          In the meantime, the last reserves match was pretty close to a complete farce with McAndrew, Owen, Hickey, Ladhams and Buller all running around.

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                          • lwjoyner
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 952

                            #28
                            ruckn roll .thats why i have been calling for maandrew to get a game. we will crucifi both mclean and amerty. both not big enough. Mclean is trying hisd heart out.

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                            • Ruck'n'Roll
                              Ego alta, ergo ictus
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 3990

                              #29
                              No arguement from me lwjoyner - unfortunately you don't have the same sway over selection committee meeting as our colleague currently enjoys. :wink

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                              • BRS328
                                Warming the Bench
                                • Feb 2018
                                • 356

                                #30
                                McAndrew is miles off it. Yes he can bring the ball to ground, but the opposition ruckman have been having a birthday running off and having impact on the game. He is a work in progress, and the early signs are encouraging, but it will take time.
                                Agree with you on McLean, he is a trier but is undersized, and not the long term solution.
                                Armartey on the other hand is quick and has natural spring, and in my opinion can play the Sam Reid forward/ ruck role, but again is not the answer to the first ruck problem

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