Rnd 24 vs Melbourne at the SCG, Sunday 27 August at 3:20 PM

[liz]

If we weren't already the scourge of the AFL media before this, the knives will be sharpening as I write.

[MattW]

The verdict is in: Tom McCartin and Taylor Duryea learn fate at Tribunal

WE WON. AGAIN.

So good. Tom would be in our five most valuable players, at minimum, so this as an important decision.

I do feel for McAdam, but it was an accident caused by the last second wicked ball bounce and the comparative stature of the players.

[i'm-uninformed2]

Bwahahahaha.

Gil will impose another trade ban on his way out the door the way we’re going.

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So good. Tom would be in our five most valuable players, at minimum, so this as an important decision.

I do feel for McAdam, but it was an accident caused by the last second wicked ball bounce and the comparative stature of the players.

I’ve felt for three years now that given the clear lack of an alternative, he’s our most valuable player.

[stellation]

The verdict is in: Tom McCartin and Taylor Duryea learn fate at Tribunal

WE WON. AGAIN.

Magnifique!

Now if we can just get our legal eagles on to helping the goal umpire that was stood down back on the active list and shipped to the SCG that’d be great!

[waswan]

great news common sense prevails

Now we just have to listen to Kingy talk about it not sending a message

Poor bloke had no option, how you can look at it anyother way is mind boggling

[Blood Fever]

If we weren't already the scourge of the AFL media before this, the knives will be sharpening as I write.

No doubt but won't worry us and just might motivate us.

[MattW]

Bwahahahaha.

Gil will impose another trade ban on his way out the door the way we’re going.

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I’ve felt for three years now that given the clear lack of an alternative, he’s our most valuable player.

Probably. In the current squad (e.g. no Buddy), it's hard to see us winning many big games without Heeney, Papley or Gulden. Next tier, in order: Blakey, Parker, Rowbottom, Mills.

[Maltopia]

McCartin free to play!

The verdict is in: Tom McCartin and Taylor Duryea learn fate at Tribunal

[chalbilto]

Wow the Victorian and South Australian media and supporters are going to go nuts. I was wrong with my initial judgement of the incident but I an totally rapt. The footy gods are shining down upon us.

[Blood Fever]

Story from Channel 9 saying that Swans are succession planning so that Dean Cox takes over from JL when he eventually gives it away. Strong WA influence at the club with Cox, Pyke Mcdonald, Warner Brothers, Sheldrick and Buller. Reminiscent of South before 1933 flag when there was what was known as the Foreign Legion with a number of players also having come over from WA.

Their influence then was instrumental in the Swans nickname. RucknRoll might want to weigh in on this!

[MattW]

Story from Channel 9 saying that Swans are succession planning so that Dean Cox takes over from JL when he eventually gives it away. Strong WA influence at the club with Cox, Pyke Mcdonald, Warner Brothers, Sheldrick and Buller. Reminiscent of South before 1933 flag when there was what was known as the Foreign Legion with a number of players also having come over from WA.

Their influence then was instrumental in the Swans nickname. RucknRoll might want to weigh in on this!

That would surprise me. Had in mind a McVeigh dynasty.

Also: a fair bit still left in John. Still very clearly has the players' respect and buy-in.

[Blood Fever]

Article inferred he would take over in 2026

[i'm-uninformed2]

That would surprise me. Had in mind a McVeigh dynasty.

Also: a fair bit still left in John. Still very clearly has the players' respect and buy-in.

It would surprise me too that anyone would have a goddamn clue, and I bet Longmire hasn’t even made that decision. Media spec.

Re Mcveigh, I do think when you look at the CV of the best coaches, they’ve been in more than one football program. I wonder if a few years outside the Swans would benefit him to broaden his thinking.

[neilfws]

Re Mcveigh, I do think when you look at the CV of the best coaches, they’ve been in more than one football program. I wonder if a few years outside the Swans would benefit him to broaden his thinking.

I can't think of many "favourite son groomed to be the coach" success stories. Voss at Brisbane (too soon), Hird (oh dear), Buckley (almost won them a GF at least).

I'm sure the Swans would do it better of course!

Maybe I can only recall the negative examples - there must have been some successes?

[liz]

I can't think of many "favourite son groomed to be the coach" success stories. Voss at Brisbane (too soon), Hird (oh dear), Buckley (almost won them a GF at least).

I'm sure the Swans would do it better of course!

Maybe I can only recall the negative examples - there must have been some successes?

Roos wasn't exactly a "favourite son" of the Swans, given he arrived so late in his playing career. And of course he had experience at another club in a playing capacity, though I suspect most of the lessons from his time at Fitzroy fell into the "how not to run a club" bucket.

But he didn't gain any coaching experience outside the Swans before taking over and, indeed, had a relatively short apprenticeship as a coach at the Swans before taking over the top job. He retired from playing at the end of 1998, spent a couple of seasons living in the US (and studying sports management informally) and doing some media work here in Australia. He then became an assistant coach at the Swans in 2001 and by the middle of 2002 had the caretaker job.

As a general rule, I agree with IU2's observation that time in another environment is highly beneficial. Ideally a coach would do this even if they had played at another club, but I reckon it's even more important if you've only ever been at one club as a player and assistant coach.