Rnd 24 vs Melbourne at the SCG, Sunday 27 August at 3:20 PM

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  • MattW
    Veterans List
    • May 2011
    • 4195

    #76
    Originally posted by ugg
    Amartey, Melican and Roberts into the extended squad (also includes last week’s sub Clarke). Amartey named in the starting 18, and Francis on the bench. I would guess that’s the only change.
    Yeah. Would mind them rolling with Roberts as the sub rather than Clarke. I guess (talking myself out of it) Clarke is more likely to make good decisions in clutch late game moments.

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    Originally posted by Kafka's Ghost
    Totally agree. That was one of the club’s truly great wins.


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    Missed it! Walking up a mountain behind Innsbruck at the time. Pretty cool to come down the mountain and get a text from a mate about it.

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    • barry
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      • Jan 2003
      • 8499

      #77
      There are so many combinations with other games, all I hope for is a win and we end up with a first week Sydney final. (Even if GWS is hosting)

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      • Sandridge
        Outer wing, Lake Oval
        • Apr 2010
        • 2049

        #78
        Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
        Scott Stevens is a blast from the past. I hold players from the 2003 finals victory over Port in Adelaide in almost the same revered class as anyone who played in a flag side. In my 30 years of watching, probably the greatest non-GF victory we’ve had.
        Great post, I'm-uninformed!! Completely agree that this was the greatest non-GF Swans win in my lifetime and I've been a Blood since 1961.

        It's not my favourite win. I have a couple of South Melbourne wins from the 70s that are dearer to my heart but, yep, the 2003 final win against the Power on their home ground when we were supposed to be no chance at all was just sublime!!

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        • liz
          Veteran
          Site Admin
          • Jan 2003
          • 16738

          #79
          Originally posted by barry
          There are so many combinations with other games, all I hope for is a win and we end up with a first week Sydney final. (Even if GWS is hosting)
          GWS hosting us in a final is - I believe - a close to impossible outcome.

          GWS would need to get up to 6th to host a final. For that to happen we would have to lose (and the Saints lose, and the Giants make up more than 3% on the Saints). It we lose and the Giants win, we will finish 8th (and thus play the 5th placed team, not the 6th placed team). GWS can't finish 5th.

          There is one other permutation of results that could have the Giants finish 6th and us 7th but it would require highly unlikely results - us to draw, Saints to lose, and the Giants to beat Carlton by a sufficient margin to make up more than 6% on us. A draw would slightly reduce our own percentage. For example, an 80-80 draw would decrease it by almost exactly 0.5% (in an additive/subtractive sense, not a relative sense). The Giants would need to win by over 100 points against Carlton. The more they concede, the larger their margin would need to be. A 101-0 result would just do the trick (if we draw 80-80) but once they start to concede points, the margin they need increases. If Carlton score 20, the Giants would need 124. If Carlton score 50, the Giants would need 157.

          If they were playing West Coast or Essendon (again), the second leg wouldn't be beyond imagination. But it would still require the Swans and Dees to have drawn first.

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          • barry
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            • Jan 2003
            • 8499

            #80
            It's unlikely, but depending on earlier results, Carlton could put the cue in the rack, if 5th is locked in and GWS made up about 5% last week..
            Anyway, my point really was the getting a Sydney final with no travel for the first week would greatly improve our chances of a flag in a wide open season.. 4 weeks travel in a row = impossible., 3 weeks = maybe.

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            • Blood Fever
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              • Apr 2007
              • 4040

              #81
              If we got to a Prelim in Melbourne after 2 weeks travelling, maybe we stay on there if we got to GF.

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              • Sandridge
                Outer wing, Lake Oval
                • Apr 2010
                • 2049

                #82
                I know Damian Barrett isn’t the most popular footy journo on RWO and he obviously still doesn’t understand the concept of “sliding doors” but in today’s Sliding Doors segment on the AFL website, he mentions that Horse was due for a change of luck and cites the 2016 GF as one of the reasons why. It’s not the first time he’s mentioned the injustice we had to endure in that game.

                Sliding Doors

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                • Kafka's Ghost
                  Regular in the Side
                  • Sep 2017
                  • 899

                  #83
                  Originally posted by Sandridge
                  I know Damian Barrett isn’t the most popular footy journo on RWO and he obviously still doesn’t understand the concept of “sliding doors” but in today’s Sliding Doors segment on the AFL website, he mentions that Horse was due for a change of luck and cites the 2016 GF as one of the reasons why. It’s not the first time he’s mentioned the injustice we had to endure in that game.

                  Sliding Doors
                  Saw that too. He’s one of the few who mentions it, but I believe it’s widely considered we were robbed that day (from a couple of journos I met subsequently). I also believe that game had a significantly negative impact on our start in 2017.


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                  • Maltopia
                    Senior Player
                    • Apr 2016
                    • 1556

                    #84
                    Barrett is not just saying luck, he has said it seemed throwing by the opposition was allowed all game. That is a clear attack on the legitimacy of the umpiring in that game.

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                    • crackedactor 01
                      Regular in the Side
                      • Jun 2020
                      • 732

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Maltopia
                      Barrett is not just saying luck, he has said it seemed throwing by the opposition was allowed all game. That is a clear attack on the legitimacy of the umpiring in that game.
                      It is pleasing and amazing that a MS Journalist admitted the Bulldogs were given a charmed umpire run in 2016. I paid a thousand dollars to see that match and swore as long as Gil Mc runs the AFL I would never go to another AFL game. Thus it was the last game I attended.

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                      • Go Swannies
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                        • Sep 2003
                        • 5697

                        #86
                        Originally posted by Sandridge
                        Great post, I'm-uninformed!! Completely agree that this was the greatest non-GF Swans win in my lifetime and I've been a Blood since 1961.

                        It's not my favourite win. I have a couple of South Melbourne wins from the 70s that are dearer to my heart but, yep, the 2003 final win against the Power on their home ground when we were supposed to be no chance at all was just sublime!!
                        Goodes was magnificent throughout. Remember his rushed behind "he's kicking goals at both ends"? And Baz as ruckman punching the ball out over and over so the others had a breather. That and Nicky D's Semi are the two games for me - but I watch all of this and just the last quarter of the SCG game.

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                        • barry
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                          • Jan 2003
                          • 8499

                          #87
                          All the jounos hate luke beverage, so don't mind bringing up the cheating in 2016 just to take a pot shot at him.

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                          • i'm-uninformed2
                            Reefer Madness
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 4653

                            #88
                            Originally posted by crackedactor 01
                            It is pleasing and amazing that a MS Journalist admitted the Bulldogs were given a charmed umpire run in 2016. I paid a thousand dollars to see that match and swore as long as Gil Mc runs the AFL I would never go to another AFL game. Thus it was the last game I attended.
                            I'm no fan of Damian Barrett, but to be fair to him - I've seen him bring up the rort that was the 2016 GF umpiring on a regular basis.
                            'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                            • Sandridge
                              Outer wing, Lake Oval
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 2049

                              #89
                              Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
                              I'm no fan of Damian Barrett, but to be fair to him - I've seen him bring up the rort that was the 2016 GF umpiring on a regular basis.
                              Yep, there's no doubt about how he feels about that game. The 2016 GF has popped up in his Sliding Doors segment a number of times.

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                              • Maltopia
                                Senior Player
                                • Apr 2016
                                • 1556

                                #90
                                Nice article about Hickey. Didn’t know he has never taken a bounce in 149 games!

                                'Nothing to hold in the tank': Sydney Swans ruckman Tom Hickey ready for final push

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