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  • Maltopia
    Senior Player
    • Apr 2016
    • 1556

    General footy chat 2023 Finals Series

    Created this thread as there wasn’t an obvious better place to chat about the finals series as a whole.

    Just read on the AFL site that JPK is the Premiership Cup Ambassador - which means he presents the trophy to the us on GF day?

    So who are people thinking will win it all?

    For me, I am thinking Pies, Brisbane and Melbourne (even with Melksham injured) are the most likely.

    We were only a few tight games outside of the top four, but we had so many last quarter fade-outs (and ‘lucky wins’ against North and Adelaide) that I am not confident we can win four away games in a row (even two is going to be tough).

    That said, I have tipped us this weekend.
  • barry
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 8499

    #2
    Bedford (giants) will miss 1st final as his appeal failed for a pretty normal sheppard.
    Sets a dangerous precedent for rest of finals. Be careful swans.

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    • Maltopia
      Senior Player
      • Apr 2016
      • 1556

      #3
      Originally posted by barry
      Bedford (giants) will miss 1st final as his appeal failed for a pretty normal sheppard.
      Sets a dangerous precedent for rest of finals. Be careful swans.
      Well we can predict an out then for our second final if we beat Carlton:

      Out: Wicks (suspended) ????

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      • i'm-uninformed2
        Reefer Madness
        • Oct 2003
        • 4653

        #4
        That’s an awesome reward for JPK. There’s a fundamental element of AFL that hopefully never changes and that’s winning the contested ball, and no one has done it better. He’s one of the most ‘unheralded’ great midfielders the game has had.
        'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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        • Kafka's Ghost
          Regular in the Side
          • Sep 2017
          • 903

          #5
          Originally posted by Maltopia
          Well we can predict an out then for our second final if we beat Carlton:

          Out: Wicks (suspended) [emoji23]
          [emoji23]


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          • Mel_C
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 4470

            #6
            Originally posted by barry
            Bedford (giants) will miss 1st final as his appeal failed for a pretty normal sheppard.
            Sets a dangerous precedent for rest of finals. Be careful swans.
            Whately and Buckley were discussing the Bedford incident this morning, and they couldn't believe he was suspended. Whately AGAIN expressed his dissatisfaction with both Rampe and McCartin getting off for their bumps. He brought up the fact that the opposition players had concussion and a fractured cheek bone, whereas in Bedford's case the opponent had no injury. He said if Bedford was a more high profile player, there would be more publicity.

            Whately is so frustrating, only concentrating on the injury and not whether the incident is a football act.

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            • Blood Fever
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2007
              • 4049

              #7
              Look up know all in the dictionary and you'll see a picture of Gerard.

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              • barry
                Veterans List
                • Jan 2003
                • 8499

                #8
                The Bedford case is the most bizarre one for a while. Every footy person says it's not worth a week, especially a final. Appeal gets delayed 6 days because AFL council were on holidays (a week before finals!), and now it's been appealed again. Not sure on what grounds, but maybe 'the vibe'.

                Could you imagine someone like Patrick Cripps being stuffed around like this.?

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                • crackedactor 01
                  Regular in the Side
                  • Jun 2020
                  • 742

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Mel_C
                  Whately and Buckley were discussing the Bedford incident this morning, and they couldn't believe he was suspended. Whately AGAIN expressed his dissatisfaction with both Rampe and McCartin getting off for their bumps. He brought up the fact that the opposition players had concussion and a fractured cheek bone, whereas in Bedford's case the opponent had no injury. He said if Bedford was a more high profile player, there would be more publicity.

                  Whately is so frustrating, only concentrating on the injury and not whether the incident is a football act.
                  The AFL has a distinct dislike for Sydney teams. How do you suspend Bedford and nothing for Jacob Weitering who attempted to gouge out the eyes of Toby Greene?

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                  • The Big Cat
                    On the veteran's list
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 2356

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Mel_C
                    Whately and Buckley were discussing the Bedford incident this morning, and they couldn't believe he was suspended. Whately AGAIN expressed his dissatisfaction with both Rampe and McCartin getting off for their bumps. He brought up the fact that the opposition players had concussion and a fractured cheek bone, whereas in Bedford's case the opponent had no injury. He said if Bedford was a more high profile player, there would be more publicity.

                    Whately is so frustrating, only concentrating on the injury and not whether the incident is a football act.
                    At time Whately said the tribunal got it right in clearing Tom.
                    Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                    • stellation
                      scott names the planets
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 9720

                      #11
                      I'm fully supportive of trying to protect the long term health of players, even if that means we're going to see some wild decisions around suspensions (I feel like that's been the case for quite a while, anyway).

                      That said, the Bedford suspension is ridiculous (and I have to be honest- particularly in the light of our own Dane and Tom getting off, I thought theirs were worse).
                      I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                      We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                      • wolftone57
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                        • Aug 2008
                        • 5857

                        #12
                        Originally posted by barry
                        Bedford (giants) will miss 1st final as his appeal failed for a pretty normal sheppard.
                        Sets a dangerous precedent for rest of finals. Be careful swans.
                        Yeah a dreadful decision. I think a home town decision.

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                        • liz
                          Veteran
                          Site Admin
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 16773

                          #13
                          Originally posted by stellation
                          That said, the Bedford suspension is ridiculous (and I have to be honest- particularly in the light of our own Dane and Tom getting off, I thought theirs were worse).
                          I don't think the three are comparable. The Swans were able to persuade the tribunal that Dane and Tom didn't initiate a bump on their opponents, but that they were accidental collisions between two players positioning themselves (in the Rampe case) or contesting a bouncing ball (in the McCartin case). There are plenty of instances during games where contact is made, a player comes off the worse for wear, but no-one thinks there should be a suspension. Just from our own games, a player recently ran headfirst into Wicks's shoulder/back/arm as Wicks was marking the ball. Heeney has "taken out" a couple with his backside as he has been crouched down picking up the ball.

                          Unfortunately for Bedford, it seems he did initiate the contact with Fisher and the AFL sees any action like that as a "bump". And it probably was more of a bump than some other actions that had been penalised - like Campbell's collision with Whitfield (?) that he received a week for (and which the Swans came close to contesting but in the end decided not to). The only vision I've seen of the incident is a 23 second clip from a single angle. It doesn't seem like the contact was excessive, but it rarely is nowadays. It's impossible to tell from that clip whether Fisher was telling the truth or not about whether the contact was essentially to his body or there was a high component.

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                          • wolftone57
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                            • Aug 2008
                            • 5857

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Mel_C
                            Whately and Buckley were discussing the Bedford incident this morning, and they couldn't believe he was suspended. Whately AGAIN expressed his dissatisfaction with both Rampe and McCartin getting off for their bumps. He brought up the fact that the opposition players had concussion and a fractured cheek bone, whereas in Bedford's case the opponent had no injury. He said if Bedford was a more high profile player, there would be more publicity.

                            Whately is so frustrating, only concentrating on the injury and not whether the incident is a football act.
                            Yes. Whately was ok with the behind several behind the play incidents which Robbo was scathing about. Whately said the player was not injured. One of those incidents did not get cited and it was one of our players, Ollie I think, on the receiving end. He has no idea what is a footy action and what isn't and only concentrates on injury which is stupid.

                            Not only that, Fisher had to leave ggd field and even though he came back in was stunned. I think Bedford's was a footy action as much as Rampe & McCartin's actions were. Gerard Whately is tunnel visioned. He always has been. Hd also does not like the Swans and was always saying how much help we have received. If hd can snipe the Swans he will


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                            • stevoswan
                              Veterans List
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 8557

                              #15
                              Bedford free to play after appeals hearing. Good on him.

                              Toby Bedford has faced the AFL Appeals Board in a bid to have his one-week suspension overturned and be available for the Giants' elimination final against St Kilda

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