Supporting Tasmania or otherwise changing your loyalties

[Bloods05]

Weird stuff. Unique wavelength.

Barry is sui generis. And we wouldn't have it any other way.

[barry]

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[Ruck'n'Roll]

Barry is sui generis. And we wouldn't have it any other way.

Indeed I don't think we would - RWO is an independant site.
So if this isn't the place for differing opinions on the Swans, where is?

I'd just like to sincerely thank all the participants for not pulling out the "You're not a proper Swans supporter" slur during this difference of opinion.
Such restraint is hugely appreciated, and I'd hate to see more RWOers depart because it made a reappearance.

[Bloods05]

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Sorry Barry, I thought your Latin would be up to speed. My apologies for presuming. "Sui generis" means "one of a kind". It's not an insult, unless you choose to see it that way. We all treasure your weirdness, and I sincerely hope you do too.

[Kafka's Ghost]

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Sui generis means “one of a kind”, so I’d be pretty chuffed if someone used that about me!
By the way, despite being a 25 year Swans member, basically since I left uni and could afford the membership, I’m barracking for the Giants this finals series.


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[Kafka's Ghost]

Sorry Barry, I thought your Latin would be up to speed. My apologies for presuming. "Sui generis" means "one of a kind". It's not an insult, unless you choose to see it that way. We all treasure your weirdness, and I sincerely hope you do too.

Ooops, sorry Bloods05, just saw you’d posted the meaning, too.


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[barry]

Funny thing is that my views are the majority of swans supporters (and giants, lions, suns, crows, eagles and dockers).
Those millions of supporters didn't appear out of no where, they had a different histor ly.supporting different clubs and different codes.

You may know Latin, but you must have skipped maths . Lol.

[barry]

I wonder where the Tassie team will find it's supporters from?

[Bloods05]

Uncommitted Tasmanians, mostly. That first word is the key one. In Tassie especially, there are plenty of people with a leaning to one old VFL team or the other (often based on their history with Tasmanian players) but not a full-on commitment. There will be no shortage of local supporters who will shed their half-heartedness and take up that full commitment with a vengeance. And they'll stick with it for life. As they should.

[barry]

Uncommitted Tasmanians, mostly. That first word is the key one. In Tassie especially, there are plenty of people with a leaning to one old VFL team or the other (often based on their history with Tasmanian players) but not a full-on commitment. There will be no shortage of local supporters who will shed their half-heartedness and take up that full commitment with a vengeance. And they'll stick with it for life. As they should.

Lol. Give up mate.

[Bloods05]

Lol. Give up mate.

Jeez Louise, do you have to go down this path? Just enjoy the exchange of views and stop taking offence at everyone who disagrees with you. It's not that hard, and sometimes you can learn things. I've learnt a lot from you about how a certain kind of newish footy supporter thinks about the game. The fact that I don't like it doesn't mean it's anything personal against you. There's room for all of us here.

[stevoswan]

No point quibbling about your use of that word, however odd it may be. The guts of the issue is that you think a lifetime of loyalty to a footy team reflects a rigidity or inflexibility of character. You're entitled to that opinion, but it puts you way out on the fringe when it comes to the bulk of footy supporters. To the contrary, I think it reflects depth of character and a willingness to endure adversity. Most of us revel in that lifelong commitment. It's what makes following the footy meaningful.

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I didn't expect you to care about being out on the fringe, Barry. I'm sure you wear it as a badge of honour. But when you equate loyalty and commitment with weakness, you're really stretching it to the point of weirdness.

+1 again. You're flogging a very strange horse barry.

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That's not an insult...it means 'one of a kind'. Hardly insulting to called unique.

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Lol. Give up mate.

Mirror barry....mirror.

[barry]

Predictable

[sprite]

Uncommitted Tasmanians, mostly. That first word is the key one. In Tassie especially, there are plenty of people with a leaning to one old VFL team or the other (often based on their history with Tasmanian players) but not a full-on commitment. There will be no shortage of local supporters who will shed their half-heartedness and take up that full commitment with a vengeance. And they'll stick with it for life. As they should.

You're on the right path with this thought B05, I would take it further tho'.

It's going to be the next and following generations that will grow the base (despite their parents allegiances), once the kids see they have something that they "own", with it's own locally developed star players that's what needs to be considered.

The example of how not to do it, the AFL went in with a belief that a Gold Coast team would pick up a large supporter base from those Vic's who migrated there, what it achieved was a supporter base that sort of adopted a team which let them see live footy every second week. The next generation is starting to grow and when you look at the crowds (even though somewhat small) there are plenty of kids.

Sydney has shown what can be done by generating excitement and "ownership" of the team with the younger base. I am sure this will happen GWS, as they have more success. It will happen in Tassie too, but it ain't gonna happen overnight.

It's about grabbing the next generation(s) and giving them something they can develop and grow with.

[Bloods05]

You're on the right path with this thought B05, I would take it further tho'.

It's going to be the next and following generations that will grow the base (despite their parents allegiances), once the kids see they have something that they "own", with it's own locally developed star players that's what needs to be considered.

The example of how not to do it, the AFL went in with a belief that a Gold Coast team would pick up a large supporter base from those Vic's who migrated there, what it achieved was a supporter base that sort of adopted a team which let them see live footy every second week. The next generation is starting to grow and when you look at the crowds (even though somewhat small) there are plenty of kids.

Sydney has shown what can be done by generating excitement and "ownership" of the team with the younger base. I am sure this will happen GWS, as they have more success. It will happen in Tassie too, but it ain't gonna happen overnight.

It's about grabbing the next generation(s) and giving them something they can develop and grow with.

Agree with all that.