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  • Trever
    Suspended by the MRP
    • Mar 2024
    • 73

    It's four games now. He broke an arm so could still put weight on his legs during his recovery.

    The Swans are telling him that we think James Rowbottom is a better footballer and that Sam Wicks is a better forward and that there are no hybrid forward / midfield roles for you.

    This is ROK 2014 all over again. What happens when Mills comes back and nobody is injured? That will make its even harder for Parker.

    There's speculation that ROK didn't attand the 2012 renunion and that he remains upset about 2014. Parker is a proud man. You dont want him feeling this.

    A club like North and Clarko may be able to get him going again.

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    • waswan
      Senior Player
      • Oct 2015
      • 2047

      Id play him in front of Wicks and rotate him and Adams fwd.

      Adams recruitment would sting and I believe a side will come for Parker.
      Adams isnt doing anything Parker wouldnt and visa versa

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      • longmile
        Crumber
        • Apr 2011
        • 3364

        Originally posted by waswan
        Id play him in front of Wicks and rotate him and Adams fwd.

        Adams recruitment would sting and I believe a side will come for Parker.
        Adams isnt doing anything Parker wouldnt and visa versa
        I agree but would go further and say I think Parker would be playing Adams’ role better than Adams is

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        • Auntie.Gerald
          Veterans List
          • Oct 2009
          • 6474

          Originally posted by Nico
          If Sheldrick has a year left on his contract he stays. Who knows if Parker will continue or even Adams. To let Sheldrick go at seasons end is folly to me.
          I have absolutely enjoyed watching the inside mid rotation this season in Ressies. I love weighing up potential vs now.

          I love Sheldrick although lesser games due to injury again. He does have a clear advantage in a couple seasons training with the squad after the 2021 draft vs any newbie inside mids joining the squad this year 2024.

          I am also seeing the challenge ahead for our ressie boys vs Seniors like Patch, Parker, Mills, Rowie, Warner, JJ most likely dominating the inside mid roles and forward rotation..........which doesnt bode well mathematically for our young guys to feature strongly in the top23 in 2024 minimum. Even JMac getting time thru the inside mid along with a couple others, doesnt leave much time for others.

          It is worth taking some time to hone in on the inside mids in ressies....... at the games........or if you cant get there live...... go online.........because the the ceiling for a couple of them is still high ie Cleary and maybe even Indhi. Cleary is a truffle pig with elite running, strong already like Parker year 1 and good enough skills.

          Cleary runs elite 6min kms......so that little GPS has him pinging above anyone else in ressie reviews...........he is also maybe a 30 to 45 secs ahead of Sheldrick and Robbo on the 2km.......which is enormous in distance ahead of the footy or a match up on game day.

          He is an extractor with serious strength.

          He is a laser with intent.

          He is building his game to be a better link player........ie ive been watching closely his awareness to arc into the ball and provide his 360 options once winning the contested or loose ball in the mud

          For not a perfect kicking technique......... he is effective and will only get better like KJack in my opinion

          I truly believe he will be shifting gears past a few in ressies and biting at a mid rotation spot in 2025. Especially after this season and a pre season.

          Looking forward to reviewing these posts 12 months from now.
          "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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          • Maltopia
            Senior Player
            • Apr 2016
            • 1556

            As alluded to by others earlier, it is official that Melican is now signed for next year, as he has triggers automatic extension clauses

            So now we have Logan & Hayward plus Fox and Cunningham out of the bigger names to go.

            Also yet to sign:

            Reid
            Francis
            Buller
            Arnold
            McAndrew
            Mitchell
            Edwards
            Magor
            Konstanty
            Vickery

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            • BRS328
              Warming the Bench
              • Feb 2018
              • 355

              Ludwig
              Great post, and agree with everything you said. Great to see you back on the keyboard

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              • BRS328
                Warming the Bench
                • Feb 2018
                • 355

                He is smarter than that, and besides he would be in line for a position with the Swans if he stays. He is highly regarded

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                • Dow
                  Regular in the Side
                  • Sep 2022
                  • 826

                  Feel for Parker, but right now it’s about team balance - if we drop wicks we lose speed and pressure. Our luck with injuries can’t hold forever his chance will come

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                  • crackedactor 01
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Jun 2020
                    • 742

                    Originally posted by Maltopia
                    As alluded to by others earlier, it is official that Melican is now signed for next year, as he has triggers automatic extension clauses

                    So now we have Logan & Hayward plus Fox and Cunningham out of the bigger names to go.

                    Also yet to sign:

                    Reid
                    Francis
                    Buller
                    Arnold
                    McAndrew
                    Mitchell
                    Edwards
                    Magor
                    Konstanty
                    Vickery
                    Mitchell, Edwards and Buller a big yes. Unsure on the rest.

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                    • Trever
                      Suspended by the MRP
                      • Mar 2024
                      • 73

                      I guess when the Swans list management looked at their inside midfield stocks after 2023 they couldn’t have foreshadowed the following:

                      - They had the best midfielder of 2024 playing most of his time as a medium forward.
                      - Rowbottom was not predicted to be as good as he’s been playing.
                      - Chad was not predicted going to be as effective as he’s been in tandem with Heeney and Rowbottom. The mix of talents greater than the sum of their parts.
                      - Cleary, Mitchell and Sheldrick give exciting depth.
                      - James Jordan has been a revelation with his role.
                      - Parker, Mills and Adams would be out do early in the season allowing a alternative and some would argue more effective midfield to play.

                      Nobody predicted this scenario at the end of 2023. Mills is fortunate he’s versatile in defence otherwise he’ll be in the reserves with Parker when fit.

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                      • Auntie.Gerald
                        Veterans List
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 6474

                        Luke PArker
                        3 years younger than Joel Selwood when the Cats did a job on us in the GF
                        I do believe that PArker was in the top22 pre injury
                        I do sense before we know it he will be back in the 22 and then we wont be talking much about in or out for Parks
                        He is a gem.
                        They only hard to juggle is the inside mid rotation. We have a stack of them all of a sudden !
                        I mean who would have thought after watching Heenye last 8-10 years in Snrs and juniors that he would suddenly do a Dustin Martin in the midfield ?
                        He is killing it and now Patch is a step down in his role.
                        Rowie is keeps rising like an inferno - cant stop him !

                        But Finals footy is so different than running freely like we did 2022 prior to the GF. .........wow weeeeee.......so different in the clinches and half the space.

                        Thats where the Parker Truffle comes to life !

                        Parks will be back soon.

                        PARK-LIFE !!!

                        I mean........isnt the SCG centre bounce better with Luke Parker crushing it ?
                        Last edited by Auntie.Gerald; 16 May 2024, 06:29 PM.
                        "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                        • Mel_C
                          Veterans List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 4470

                          Originally posted by Trever
                          It's four games now. He broke an arm so could still put weight on his legs during his recovery.

                          The Swans are telling him that we think James Rowbottom is a better footballer and that Sam Wicks is a better forward and that there are no hybrid forward / midfield roles for you.

                          This is ROK 2014 all over again. What happens when Mills comes back and nobody is injured? That will make its even harder for Parker.

                          There's speculation that ROK didn't attand the 2012 renunion and that he remains upset about 2014. Parker is a proud man. You dont want him feeling this.

                          A club like North and Clarko may be able to get him going again.
                          The situation between the 2 players is different. ROK was in the side and he was out of form when he was dropped. Parker was injured in the pre season and now the team is playing really well. He is at a point in his career where he isn't an automatic in, especially when there is no obvious spot. Dropping Wicks would affect our forward pressure. Jordon is performing a role every week. Adams is the player similar to Parker, (although Parker is superior to Adams in the forward line).

                          I would love Parker to be in the side. He bleeds red and white. I'm just not sure if his inclusion would be a detriment to the team.

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                          • Mel_C
                            Veterans List
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 4470

                            Talking Footy were discussing Hayward and what decision he should make. Selwood, Cotchin and Tim Watson said he should stay with the Swans. Watson said "the grass looks greener on the other side". It was mentioned that St Kilda has a war chest. Someone said Hayward would be a good fit for Carlton but that Jack Martin is a similar player.

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                            • Ruck'n'Roll
                              Ego alta, ergo ictus
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 3990

                              Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                              I mean who would have thought after watching Heenye last 8-10 years in Snrs and juniors that he would suddenly do a Dustin Martin in the midfield ?
                              I'm assuming you meant that ironically, because several people on RWO thought and said exactly that.

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                              • lwjoyner
                                Regular in the Side
                                • Nov 2004
                                • 950

                                parker MUST be in seniors wven if he replaces Wicks. Also beleive that Cunningham needs to be replaced. kicking not as prenertrating. Roberts for him

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