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  • dejavoodoo44
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2015
    • 8490

    Originally posted by liz
    Kurt Tippett.

    (And maybe Tony Armstrong.)

    BTW, the rules around matching bids as they currently stand (ie before the AFL changes the rules) is that if you finish in the top four you can only match one first round bid for an academy player. If you finish fifth to eighth you can match two. If you finish out of the top eight there is no restriction.

    And of course these limits don't apply to father-son candidates. So Carlton could finish top four this year (yeah, emphasis on 'could') and still be allowed to match first round picks on both Camporeale twins (if they go that high).


    Edit: The restrictions may actually apply to top 20 bids, rather than the more elastic "first round". I can't remember precisely and I can't be bothered to go and look it up right now.
    Ta. Looks like we might be restricted to one first rounder for the next couple of seasons. I doubt if it will be a problem this season, but it could be a problem next year.

    And I wouldn't really include Tippett as a go home. While he was born in Sydney, he spent pretty well all his childhood and played all his junior footy in Queensland. (When typing that, I was very tempted to find and reopen the legendary Tippett thread).

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    • 707
      Veterans List
      • Aug 2009
      • 6204

      Top 20, or as you say Liz, 'the elastic first round' which last year got out to 27? if I recall. Let's see where it settles for the future.

      Watching the AFL closely to see what modifications they make to the draft.

      And how's the Vic clubs whinging about WA clubs getting extra Business Class seats! I see Hardwick, that would be the bloke who sooked it up about having to play at Marvel, has fired a broadside at those clubs given how little they travel. Also seems to have come around to supporting Northern Academies

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      • liz
        Veteran
        Site Admin
        • Jan 2003
        • 16733

        Originally posted by 707
        Top 20, or as you say Liz, 'the elastic first round' which last year got out to 27? if I recall. Let's see where it settles for the future.

        Watching the AFL closely to see what modifications they make to the draft.

        And how's the Vic clubs whinging about WA clubs getting extra Business Class seats! I see Hardwick, that would be the bloke who sooked it up about having to play at Marvel, has fired a broadside at those clubs given how little they travel. Also seems to have come around to supporting Northern Academies
        People have short (and self-serving) memories.

        When Eddie Maguire landed in Sydney to take up his short-lived role as CEO of Nine, he was vocal about
        a) how expensive Sydney was compared to Melbourne and hence that a cost of living allowance was most definitely needed for the Swans; and
        b) how hard it was to find opportunities for his sons to play junior football in Sydney. This was pre-academy, but sounded like an argument for why academies might be a good thing.

        And now...

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        • i'm-uninformed2
          Reefer Madness
          • Oct 2003
          • 4653

          I won’t get this site closed down by defaming anyone with details but let me tell ya as someone who’s worked in media and communication circles, Eddie’s bad behaviour extends well beyond his evil manipulation of all things footy and what he’s done to the Swans and Goodes. A truly awful person.
          'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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          • Mel_C
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 4470

            Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
            I won’t get this site closed down by defaming anyone with details but let me tell ya as someone who’s worked in media and communication circles, Eddie’s bad behaviour extends well beyond his evil manipulation of all things footy and what he’s done to the Swans and Goodes. A truly awful person.
            That's not surprising about Eddie. I hate how his behaviour is excused because of his "philanthropy".

            I've had to endure watching him the last couple of weeks on Footy Classified. One of the episodes there was discussion on COLA and again he brought up that it shouldn't be used to pay for a maid ????. This guy is just delusional.

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            • Mel_C
              Veterans List
              • Jan 2003
              • 4470

              Chad has put contract talks on hold.

              Sorry I posted a link to the Age and stuffed the thread so I've now deleted it.

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              • Auntie.Gerald
                Veterans List
                • Oct 2009
                • 6474

                that is not generally a good sign in AFL...........when a key player puts talks on hold

                That generally means there is a big gap between what we can afford to pay and what he is probably being offered elsewhere.

                Chad is playing like a mid 20yr old Dustin Martin right now .................there must be a fair few clubs super keen on him !

                Hey Mel

                the website below rarely ever has a problem with posting media articles

                "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                • Maltopia
                  Senior Player
                  • Apr 2016
                  • 1556

                  Originally posted by Mel_C
                  Chad has put contract talks on hold.

                  Sorry I posted a link to the Age and stuffed the thread so I've now deleted it.
                  This is not good for us. We only just unloaded then used up Franklin’s salary.

                  If we offer too much to keep Warner, we will be in the same boat again of not being able to afford a decent key back when Rampe retires or to pick up a developed key forward.

                  Can’t blame him wanting to take advantage of a huge deal and be set up for life. Maybe the best we can hope for is a short deal so he can then take in big dollars then.

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                  • i'm-uninformed2
                    Reefer Madness
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 4653

                    Snell and Edwards get contract extensions. Good on them - both have had good years and look very promising.

                    Snell and Edwards extend
                    'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                    • Auntie.Gerald
                      Veterans List
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 6474

                      Great news ????

                      - - - Updated - - -

                      Originally posted by Maltopia
                      This is not good for us. We only just unloaded then used up Franklin’s salary.

                      If we offer too much to keep Warner, we will be in the same boat again of not being able to afford a decent key back when Rampe retires or to pick up a developed key forward.

                      Can’t blame him wanting to take advantage of a huge deal and be set up for life. Maybe the best we can hope for is a short deal so he can then take in big dollars then.
                      U could almost ???? machine Hardwick going $1m plus pa for him at the Suns.

                      Hardwick loves his turnover counter attack footy which really allows creative explosive guys like Warner to flourish.
                      "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                      • waswan
                        Senior Player
                        • Oct 2015
                        • 2047

                        Warner is contracted til the end of 2025, why would he want to extend now when none of the others have.

                        He would have every option available to him now, 2yrs, 5yrs 8yrs.

                        Money will vary but only the bottom 4 teams have big money to spend.

                        If you looked closely at Freo you will see they would not have a lot of spare cash, which is why players have been leaving.

                        Their only chance to free up some cash is to offload Darcy and i doubt any decent team is taking all that on for free.

                        By end of 2025 they have to re-sign, Pearce, Brayshaw, Aish, Sharp and Erasmus as well as a few players coming into big money parts of their Long Term Contracts.

                        We arent the only team delicately balancing the books

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                        • 707
                          Veterans List
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 6204

                          Correct waswan. Every contending team is likely running close to the cap, it's only the crap teams that have spare cash and remember they still have to pay 95% (with minor variations) to a crap list so actual spare $ aren't as big as the media likes to waffle on about.

                          Seems to be great comaraderie among our younger core players, that is highly valuable. Clubs find extra $ by letting go fringe players, running minimum number on the main list, maximum Rookie Lists, front ending contracts when you do have spare $, longer deals at lesser p.a. (we have a number of those) and an ever rising salary cap.

                          Media love this contract on hold/salary cap squeeze/war chest stuff, gives them something to talk about, but I'd be most surprised if we can't keep the critical players. Let's be honest, us Joe Public know next to nothing about the real detail of salary caps or contracts, and I suspect the media is full of bs about this as well as they get fed snippets by player managers (remember Ned Guy player manager turned Pies disastrous list manager LOL) snippets fed to the media to suit those managers shenanigans.

                          That Fox show Midweek Tackle where three of the media sit around wanking on feeding each other is one of the worse for sensationalism. I can hear tonight's episode before it starts 'now Ralph, you've got the big scoop on Chad Warner putting off contract talks' and then Ralph will go on to talk about his mail telling him about the Swans cap squeeze, lurking clubs with warchests, desire of Chad to return home wank wank wank

                          Full confidence in the club, it's one of the absolute best.

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                          • dejavoodoo44
                            Veterans List
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 8490

                            Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
                            Snell and Edwards get contract extensions. Good on them - both have had good years and look very promising.

                            Snell and Edwards extend
                            That's excellent. I've been impressed with the pace and skill of Snell for a 194cm kpd. While Edwards is looking increasingly like he'll develop into a decent AFL defender.

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                            • i'm-uninformed2
                              Reefer Madness
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 4653

                              Originally posted by 707

                              That Fox show Midweek Tackle where three of the media sit around wanking on feeding each other is one of the worse for sensationalism. I can hear tonight's episode before it starts 'now Ralph, you've got the big scoop on Chad Warner putting off contract talks' and then Ralph will go on to talk about his mail telling him about the Swans cap squeeze, lurking clubs with warchests, desire of Chad to return home wank wank wank
                              .
                              When Fox changed the schedule earlier this year, I thought I'd give that show a shot despite instinctively knowing it was an attempt to flog subscriptions to the Herald Sun website.

                              Lord - I had to turn it off almost instantly knowing that all the substances I've consumed in my life gave me less brain damage than 15 minutes of watching that. The host (can't recall his name) sounded like Forrest Gump after consuming helium; Sam Lansberger came over as a cross between someone who wet his pants at the thought of being on television and someone hoping his mum was watching and would ring afterwards to say how proud she was; and there was some other old blowhard with a long main of hair and goatee who seemed like the drunk who'd drone on and on with the same story for two hours at a party and everyone worked to avoid. As for Ralph, he's always been an over-preening clickbait merchant and he reached new lows peddling Sam Wicks goal celebration non-story. The whole thing had a Star Wars bar scene vibe.
                              'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                              • Mountain Man
                                Regular in the Side
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 907

                                I avoid all trade bait nonsense when I can.
                                It is speculation that cannot be proved immediately as bull@@@@ and wrong. So ion and on it goes

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