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  • Nico
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 11337

    Originally posted by The Big Cat
    Van Royan wouldn’t get a game with us. Been taking notice of him since he was raised on this forum. Very average conveyance.
    Agree. He's in the boarding house cup of tea category right now: Big and weak.
    http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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    • stevoswan
      Veterans List
      • Sep 2014
      • 8548

      Originally posted by Trever
      Is it a worry that small forward Jacob Konstanty can't get a game ahead of Sam Wicks? Wicks came from the rookie list and Konstanty was taken in the 1st round. Does it talk more to Wicks determination and improvevment or does it talk to Konstanty potentially being a 1st round bust?
      Yeah, it's interesting indeed....he was touted as Papley mk II when we drafted him.

      Originally posted by BRS328
      I would rather have Logan McDonald and Chad Warner
      Just a reminder BRS328....reply 'with quote'.

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      • i'm-uninformed2
        Reefer Madness
        • Oct 2003
        • 4653

        I always stuff threads up with links from the SMH but gee Ollie’s quotes are impressive in the article today on his new contract.

        Told his manager he didn’t he want to hear about other offers; that his mental health and welfare were too important to chase a few extra dollars; and his desire for a flag.

        Like Errol and Rowie, it’s pretty clear we’ve got a great group determined to stick together and willing to leave some money on the table in pursuit of a flag they believe is in reach over the next few years.
        'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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        • Scottee
          Senior Player
          • Aug 2003
          • 1585

          I'm a fan of KB as well but the one that fries my noodle is Serong, super talented, highly rated and a lifelong Swans supporter. Not taking him was about as unexpected as Trump becoming president. Still don't get it

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          We have them where we want them, everything is going according to plan!

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          • The Big Cat
            On the veteran's list
            • Apr 2006
            • 2355

            Originally posted by Scottee
            I'm a fan of KB as well but the one that fries my noodle is Serong, super talented, highly rated and a lifelong Swans supporter. Not taking him was about as unexpected as Trump becoming president. Still don't get it

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            Obviously the recruiting staff felt Dyl had more upside. They got it wrong. Every club does it at some stage. Ask the 15 other clubs that passed on Goodesy.
            Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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            • Mel_C
              Veterans List
              • Jan 2003
              • 4470

              Originally posted by Dow
              Surely he’d get a game a head of Amartey ? 3 touches last week amd 6 the week before - I figure he must be meeting some team need I am not aware of
              To be fair to Amartey, he did kick 4 goals from those 6 possessions against the Gold Coast.

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              • stevoswan
                Veterans List
                • Sep 2014
                • 8548

                Originally posted by Scottee
                I'm a fan of KB as well but the one that fries my noodle is Serong, super talented, highly rated and a lifelong Swans supporter. Not taking him was about as unexpected as Trump becoming president. Still don't get it
                Yes, one of the great Swans draft mysteries.....I too love KB and of course hindsight is a wonderful thing but that one appears to be a total brainfart. I also still don't get it.

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                • The Big Cat
                  On the veteran's list
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 2355

                  Kinear has a explained many times that they picked Dyl because they were looking for a hybrid inside-outside mid. To my knowledge Serong is an inside mid, full stop.
                  Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                  • Maltopia
                    Senior Player
                    • Apr 2016
                    • 1556

                    Originally posted by Nico
                    Agree. He's in the boarding house cup of tea category right now: Big and weak.
                    I typed this earlier, but my phone deleted it when I tried to edit a typo.

                    If JVR was in our team, I think we would be saying he is tracking ok for a 3rd year tall. Compare his stats last year as a second year player, compared to Amartey's stats back when he was a second year player, or with last year when he was a fifth year player.

                    Granted Amartey was a rookie pick, so we would expect JVR to be have more upside and to develop faster, all other things (training, injury, opportunity etc) being equal.

                    Is JVR going to be a better player than Shelldrick, way to early to tell.

                    Sure JVR hasn't set the world on fire this year, but if you take out that single game for Amartey where he kicked four goals (a couple of simple ones) from six kicks, and they are actually both pretty similar in output, which is saying something for a 3rd year vs a 6th year player.

                    I am not saying KB got it wrong, but on this one, seven games in 2019 is not enough data, and it will be a few more years yet before we celebrate Shelldrick's selection, or think JVR was one that got away.

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                    • Auntie.Gerald
                      Veterans List
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 6474

                      Originally posted by Scottee
                      I'm a fan of KB as well but the one that fries my noodle is Serong, super talented, highly rated and a lifelong Swans supporter. Not taking him was about as unexpected as Trump becoming president. Still don't get it

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                      Dear lord

                      I just had a second term chill ????
                      "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                      • Trever
                        Suspended by the MRP
                        • Mar 2024
                        • 73

                        Originally posted by BRS328
                        Give Konstanty a break, he is only commencing his second season against Wicks who’s been around for 6 years. That is not a fair comparison under any circumstances. Furthermore Wicks came through the academy system and it is well acknowledged within the AFL that the academy players are more advanced than those that come through the under 19 systems in terms of coaching and preparedness.

                        There seems to be a misconception by some on this site that any first round pick should be an automatic champion or the recruiting team have failed.
                        The reality is your chances improve dramatically if you are in the top ten, and there is always one or two failures in that group.
                        From memory last year’s draft the first round was still going in the middle twenties because of all the academy, father son, compensation picks
                        I think your letting Konstanty off a bit here. The recruiting staff tagged him as the next Tom Papley. We expected similar performance as a similar stage. In year one 2016 Papley was straight off the rookie list and into the seniors. Papley was a long way from a 1st round pick in 2016 but played many impressive seniors games. I still remember Papley beating the great Luke Hodge at half back in a one on one and smashing a goal from 50m at the SCG. Konstanty is not showing Papley early career form and he’s the anointed successor and a 1st round pick compared to Papley who was a rookie player.

                        I’m a huge Wicks fan and he’s developing very well. Wicks is a tough and determined footballer who is playing his role very well. Is Konstanty tough and as determined like Wicks? I’m not sure maybe a reserve game viewer can speak to this question.

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                        • giant
                          Veterans List
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 4731

                          Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
                          I always stuff threads up with links from the SMH but gee Ollie’s quotes are impressive in the article today on his new contract.

                          Told his manager he didn’t he want to hear about other offers; that his mental health and welfare were too important to chase a few extra dollars; and his desire for a flag.

                          Like Errol and Rowie, it’s pretty clear we’ve got a great group determined to stick together and willing to leave some money on the table in pursuit of a flag they believe is in reach over the next few years.
                          Thanks for sharing this, rarely read the Sydney Morning Newsletter. Just delighted with this news and this response from Olly, it speaks mountains about the culture.
                          Well done to the list management team. It also seems highly likely we'll re-sign Logan too if the scuttlebutt is to be believed.

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                          • mcs
                            Travelling Swannie!!
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 8161

                            Originally posted by Trever
                            I think your letting Konstanty off a bit here. The recruiting staff tagged him as the next Tom Papley. We expected similar performance as a similar stage. In year one 2016 Papley was straight off the rookie list and into the seniors. Papley was a long way from a 1st round pick in 2016 but played many impressive seniors games. I still remember Papley beating the great Luke Hodge at half back in a one on one and smashing a goal from 50m at the SCG. Konstanty is not showing Papley early career form and he’s the anointed successor and a 1st round pick compared to Papley who was a rookie player.

                            I’m a huge Wicks fan and he’s developing very well. Wicks is a tough and determined footballer who is playing his role very well. Is Konstanty tough and as determined like Wicks? I’m not sure maybe a reserve game viewer can speak to this question.
                            Wicks in what his 5th or 6th season, after being in our academy prior to that.

                            This is Kostanty's second season, after missing most of last year injured.

                            Give him a chance for goodness sake.

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                            "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                            • Auntie.Gerald
                              Veterans List
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 6474

                              Agree re Konstanty

                              He could be a Dawson type development path? Who knows just yet.
                              "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                              • Auntie.Gerald
                                Veterans List
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 6474

                                James Peatling | AFL

                                Would Peatling have a distinct advantage on the SCG?

                                Kicks long

                                Value signing

                                Has done his grinding early years and now 23yrs old

                                Just putting it out there
                                "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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