Rnd 1 - Pre Match Thread - vs Collingwood at MCG, Friday 15 March 2024, 1:40 PM

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  • Maltopia
    Senior Player
    • Apr 2016
    • 1556

    Team List Rnd 1 - Pre Match Thread - vs Collingwood at MCG, Friday 15 March 2024, 1:40 PM

    So we go into round 1 with 4 premiership points and a position in the top four already. A bit strange!

    Hope we can do well and win again, so we can enjoy the rest of the footy over the weekend.

    Only player in Opening Round that was really sub-par was Amartey, so as suggested by others, he needs to go get some form in the 2s.

    Out: Amartey
    In: Ladhams
  • Dow
    Regular in the Side
    • Sep 2022
    • 796

    #2
    Originally posted by Maltopia
    So we go into round 1 with 4 premiership points and a position in the top four already. A bit strange!

    Hope we can do well and win again, so we can enjoy the rest of the footy over the weekend.

    Only player in Opening Round that was really sub-par was Amartey, so as suggested by others, he needs to go get some form in the 2s.

    Out: Amartey
    In: Ladhams
    A fitness test for Papely ?
    Serious question what role will Lloyd have, seems Robert’s has taken his spot in the back 6 and he looks a little lost and his numbers reflect that.

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    • MattW
      Veterans List
      • May 2011
      • 4193

      #3
      Originally posted by Maltopia
      So we go into round 1 with 4 premiership points and a position in the top four already. A bit strange!

      Hope we can do well and win again, so we can enjoy the rest of the footy over the weekend.

      Only player in Opening Round that was really sub-par was Amartey, so as suggested by others, he needs to go get some form in the 2s.

      Out: Amartey
      In: Ladhams
      Given McLean played well as the second ruck, I don't think this is likely. If Amartey is dropped, zi reckon it'd be for Reid.

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      • BRS328
        Warming the Bench
        • Feb 2018
        • 341

        #4
        Matt

        I agree with you. You do not need to have two big ruckmen in the same team. It didn’t work for Melbourne last year and it did not work for Richmond against the Gold Coast yesterday.
        I agree with the suggestion that if Reid is fit enough he would be the logical replacement.
        I also think that conditions on Thursday night certainly did not suit tall forwards, and again it was a good coaching move to substitute a tall for a small, and that definitely showed up when Wicks came on.
        Depending on conditions next Friday night I would be happy to see the same team provided there are no injuries

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        • Captain
          Captain of the Side
          • Feb 2004
          • 3602

          #5
          Originally posted by MattW
          Given McLean played well as the second ruck, I don't think this is likely. If Amartey is dropped, zi reckon it'd be for Reid.
          Absolutely. No need for 3 rucks.

          I would stick with Amartey for a few games and see what he produces. If we drop him now after 1 bad game, where does he go from there?

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          • Nico
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 11328

            #6
            Originally posted by Dow
            A fitness test for Papely ?
            Serious question what role will Lloyd have, seems Robert’s has taken his spot in the back 6 and he looks a little lost and his numbers reflect that.
            I think you find that Lloyd went into the game underdone.

            - - - Updated - - -

            Originally posted by Captain
            Absolutely. No need for 3 rucks.

            I would stick with Amartey for a few games and see what he produces. If we drop him now after 1 bad game, where does he go from there?
            To another club perhaps.
            http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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            • 707
              Veterans List
              • Aug 2009
              • 6204

              #7
              Reid was the only player to stand out in the ressies hit out against Southport. So given Amartey was subbed, maybe Reid for Amartey, if Reid is fully fit?

              Pies defence was ordinary last night, Moore and a first gamer their only KPD.

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              • Maltopia
                Senior Player
                • Apr 2016
                • 1556

                #8
                ReasonsI have suggested Ladhams are:

                - we have done ok with Hickey and Ladhams on the field (albeit only a few times)
                - Ladhams is very capable in general play and as a forward
                - McLean was playing as a forward primarily and only recently has become a ruck. He is a great mark and usually a great shot at goal.

                So McLean could take Amartey’s forward spot, and Ladhams plays as second ruck/McLean for example

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                • i'm-uninformed2
                  Reefer Madness
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 4653

                  #9
                  Amartey frustrates me mightily but I'd be inclined to give him one more. It wasn't a great night for talls on either side and some of our delivery was lacking. Having said that, his inability to find a way to stay engaged and involved in the game is my main beef with him. He can do the dynamic things in bursts in offence, and occasionally use his athleticism to do the hard work defensively - and then he vanishes.

                  Not meaning to talk up my man McLean here as he was only so-so the other night, but as a point of contrast - he still found a way to stay involved, did the physical work of helping to grind down Gawn and got a couple of (lucky-ish) goals. He was a long way from BOG, but he still made a contribution. And I'm pretty sure it ain't some vast gap in natural talent that sets them apart.

                  I do hope we get to see the best of Amartey as he has a lot to offer if he nails it. But he's gonna have Ladhams, Reid and Buller on his tail - and we ain't got time to mess around this season.
                  'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                  • troyjones2525
                    Swans Fanatic!
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 2908

                    #10
                    I agree with the posters saying give Amarty another go. However, if they do decide to go with the same structure and still want to drop Amarty, I'd definitely prefer Reid in than Ladhams as I do not want us to play 2 ruckman ever, particularly as I believe Grundy thrives playing sole ruck. Ladhams is purely depth in case Grundy gets injured IMO.

                    If we decide to go down the smaller route that we had when Amarty got subbed, then starting Wicks seems the logical choice with Sheldrick as the sub. Particularly if the weather is wet, which sounds like a possibility.

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                    • grarmy
                      Warming the Bench
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 406

                      #11
                      Originally posted by troyjones2525
                      I agree with the posters saying give Amarty another go. However, if they do decide to go with the same structure and still want to drop Amarty, I'd definitely prefer Reid in than Ladhams.....
                      Amarty plays like someone who is often bewildered. Just doesn't seem 'with it' at AFL level. Against Collingwood we need some additional toughness. I'd keep Wicks in the side and bring in Ladhams.
                      "Play like you can’t lose."

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                      • waswan
                        Senior Player
                        • Oct 2015
                        • 2047

                        #12
                        Originally posted by grarmy
                        Amarty plays like someone who is often bewildered. Just doesn't seem 'with it' at AFL level. Against Collingwood we need some additional toughness. I'd keep Wicks in the side and bring in Ladhams.
                        Ladhams coming in lets Mclean stay forward
                        Happy to keep Amartey if he is good to go.

                        Lloyd looked like he was alot higher up the ground, id prefer to see Campbell up the ground and Lloyd deeper.

                        As good as Fox was he was definately in for a specific role against Melb, not sure thats required against the Pies

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                        • barry
                          Veterans List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 8499

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Captain
                          Absolutely. No need for 3 rucks.

                          I would stick with Amartey for a few games and see what he produces. If we drop him now after 1 bad game, where does he go from there?
                          Amartey had bad practise games too. And a less than stellar 2023.

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                          • Blood Fever
                            Veterans List
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 4040

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Maltopia
                            So we go into round 1 with 4 premiership points and a position in the top four already. A bit strange!

                            Hope we can do well and win again, so we can enjoy the rest of the footy over the weekend.

                            Only player in Opening Round that was really sub-par was Amartey, so as suggested by others, he needs to go get some form in the 2s.

                            Out: Amartey
                            In: Ladhams
                            The conditions were terrrible for key forwards. Mcdonald took one mark overhead. Van Rooyen was useless except for a fluke goal. Amartey gets a game this week unless it's very wet and that is extremely unlikely.

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                            • Markwebbos
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                              • Jul 2016
                              • 7186

                              #15
                              We used two rucks successfully to wear down Gawn. Not sure we’ll use the same strategy against the Pies, but we might.

                              I didn’t watch the Giants demolition of the Pies but they played a very tall fwd line and we may do something similar hoping for a similar result?

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