Rnd 8 vs GWS at the SCG on Saturday May 4th at 1:45pm 2024.

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  • waswan
    Senior Player
    • Oct 2015
    • 2047

    #61
    Fox Ramps and Melican is enough Tall cover with Blakey 3rd man up.


    Frederick is a big key to them, links the Mids to the Fwds, need to be all over him. Covers alot of ground

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    • Dow
      Regular in the Side
      • Sep 2022
      • 799

      #62
      Originally posted by waswan
      WA papers already talking about Sheldrick for West Coast
      Will only get louder if he stays in the 2s
      Who comes out for him? And I reckon you are right he’d be right on WCE radar (think he will be a jet)

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      • waswan
        Senior Player
        • Oct 2015
        • 2047

        #63
        Ladhams Amartey
        Parker Wicks
        Campbell Harry
        Sheldrick Lloyd

        All our mids can go fwd, so they can cover Wicks

        Ramps and Fox do the Lockdowns

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        • Dow
          Regular in the Side
          • Sep 2022
          • 799

          #64
          Originally posted by waswan
          Ladhams Amartey
          Parker Wicks
          Campbell Harry
          Sheldrick Lloyd

          All our mids can go fwd, so they can cover Wicks

          Ramps and Fox do the Lockdowns
          that's a lot of changes from a winning side, is this something you would do all at once or stagger it ? I am not sure we want to lose so much experience all at once, but I do agree we do need to look at transitioning some of the older guys to other roles or into the seconds.

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          • ISIBIDBI
            On the Rookie List
            • Sep 2018
            • 29

            #65
            I think with our more experienced and now "less important" players like Lloyd, Cunningham, even Rampe and Parker, we should be doing more of what Geelong do, "Managing" them out every few weeks, giving some younger guys a taste of senior footy and building up our depth, whilst hopefully prolonging the older guys careers a couple of years by playing 17-18 games a season rather than 22+

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            • Dow
              Regular in the Side
              • Sep 2022
              • 799

              #66
              Originally posted by ISIBIDBI
              I think with our more experienced and now "less important" players like Lloyd, Cunningham, even Rampe and Parker, we should be doing more of what Geelong do, "Managing" them out every few weeks, giving some younger guys a taste of senior footy and building up our depth, whilst hopefully prolonging the older guys careers a couple of years by playing 17-18 games a season rather than 22+
              I think there is some merit in doing something like this

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              • waswan
                Senior Player
                • Oct 2015
                • 2047

                #67
                Originally posted by Dow
                that's a lot of changes from a winning side, is this something you would do all at once or stagger it ? I am not sure we want to lose so much experience all at once, but I do agree we do need to look at transitioning some of the older guys to other roles or into the seconds.
                Yeah too many all at once, thats is just how i see it.

                Clearly there is no rush to move out Amartey, Cunningham is doing what professionals do, a job when called up.

                I just think they arent the future and Campbell and Sheldrick are too good and have too much upsize to not be playing.

                I put Wicks in that category, doing a job when called upon but not in the 22.

                Parker has to come in to play on Fyfe.

                Hayward, Paps and the mids can apply pressure fwd with Wicks out.

                - - - Updated - - -

                and again, its would be alot of changes at once cos Amartey wasnt dealt with a month ago.

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                • bandwagon
                  Regular in the Side
                  • May 2003
                  • 519

                  #68
                  I just don't get the obsession with changing a winning side.
                  We are the most heavily scoring team in the competition, sitting on top of the ladder with an excellent percentage. So lets muck around with the forward structure???
                  I get that Amartey is the least effective of the big 3, but to retain our very effective structure you would want to replace him with the tall who is kicking all the goals in the 2's - so Hamling? Or you bring in the best small, but unfortunately Lugsdin hasn't been drafted yet. Or you go like an All-Australian selector and shove in an extra midfielder. None of those options appeal to me.
                  I do like the idea of Geelong-style rotations, and two six day breaks and a flight to Perth might be the time to consider it, but I would be happy if the big news on Thursday night is No Change.

                  Yeah, there WILL be a change this week, but I wouldn't be surprised if Francis for McCartin is the only change. Jackson, Treacy and Amiss are all big boys, so I would prefer another big body to support Melican.

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                  • dejavoodoo44
                    Veterans List
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 8494

                    #69
                    Originally posted by bandwagon
                    I just don't get the obsession with changing a winning side.
                    We are the most heavily scoring team in the competition, sitting on top of the ladder with an excellent percentage. So lets muck around with the forward structure???
                    I get that Amartey is the least effective of the big 3, but to retain our very effective structure you would want to replace him with the tall who is kicking all the goals in the 2's - so Hamling? Or you bring in the best small, but unfortunately Lugsdin hasn't been drafted yet. Or you go like an All-Australian selector and shove in an extra midfielder. None of those options appeal to me.
                    I do like the idea of Geelong-style rotations, and two six day breaks and a flight to Perth might be the time to consider it, but I would be happy if the big news on Thursday night is No Change.

                    Yeah, there WILL be a change this week, but I wouldn't be surprised if Francis for McCartin is the only change. Jackson, Treacy and Amiss are all big boys, so I would prefer another big body to support Melican.
                    Agree. And if Fyfe and Darcy play, they might also place their big bodies in the forward line, for a little bit of time, too.

                    You're probably right with Francis, as he has been very good in the VFL recently, and it's probably a fair reward for him buckling down. Though there might be some temptation to give a debut to Edwards. He's also been in excellent VFL form, and being an 197cm 20 year old, he does have more scope to develop into a long-term prospect.

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                    • waswan
                      Senior Player
                      • Oct 2015
                      • 2047

                      #70
                      Ladhams for Amartey
                      Mclean permanent fwd

                      The rest are long term planning
                      Would prefer to see Campbell and Sheldrick over others.

                      Its hard to argue we arent better with a fit Luke Parker in the team

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                      • Markwebbos
                        Veterans List
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 7186

                        #71
                        Originally posted by waswan
                        Ladhams for Amartey
                        Mclean permanent fwd

                        The rest are long term planning
                        Would prefer to see Campbell and Sheldrick over others.

                        Its hard to argue we arent better with a fit Luke Parker in the team
                        I’d argue we exceeded expectations on Saturday without Parker in the team (and with Amartey in etc)

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                        • waswan
                          Senior Player
                          • Oct 2015
                          • 2047

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Markwebbos
                          I’d argue we exceeded expectations on Saturday without Parker in the team (and with Amartey in etc)
                          Doesnt that prove my point ?

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                          • waswan
                            Senior Player
                            • Oct 2015
                            • 2047

                            #73
                            Luke Parker BOG, last time we played at Optus

                            Amartey 6 poss and 0 goals

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                            • Blood Fever
                              Veterans List
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 4040

                              #74
                              Originally posted by bandwagon
                              I just don't get the obsession with changing a winning side.
                              We are the most heavily scoring team in the competition, sitting on top of the ladder with an excellent percentage. So lets muck around with the forward structure???
                              I get that Amartey is the least effective of the big 3, but to retain our very effective structure you would want to replace him with the tall who is kicking all the goals in the 2's - so Hamling? Or you bring in the best small, but unfortunately Lugsdin hasn't been drafted yet. Or you go like an All-Australian selector and shove in an extra midfielder. None of those options appeal to me.
                              I do like the idea of Geelong-style rotations, and two six day breaks and a flight to Perth might be the time to consider it, but I would be happy if the big news on Thursday night is No Change.

                              Yeah, there WILL be a change this week, but I wouldn't be surprised if Francis for McCartin is the only change. Jackson, Treacy and Amiss are all big boys, so I would prefer another big body to support Melican.
                              Agree. Ridiculous to suggest big changes to a side sitting on top of the ladder. Team unit has been outstanding linking with all players and the roles they play.

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                              • Captain
                                Captain of the Side
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 3602

                                #75
                                I would go:

                                Parker in for McCartin (Fox to play down back). Wicks to start as sub.

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