Round 10 vs Carlton at SCG, 7:40 PM, Friday 17 May 2024

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  • Auntie.Gerald
    Veterans List
    • Oct 2009
    • 6474

    #16
    It’s interesting Mark how we will all slice and dice selections this year with such a deep list.

    For me Parks at his best last season is an auto in this season.

    For me JJ has also been playing in the mids as well as the forwards so he can easily increase his forward time this weekend.

    I think Robert’s looked tired and trailed his player a lot last week. BJ looked sharp and ready in ressies.

    It will be fascinating because we are winning and no one likes change when winning.
    "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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    • giant
      Veterans List
      • Mar 2005
      • 4731

      #17
      Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
      What a challenge to pick the INS and OUTS this week against a very good team. We have had such good run and we are in form and everyone has been playing well enough.

      You could mount an argument for all players from last week to stay and or a few to be promoted from Ressies.

      With match ups in the Blues backline and McCartin still out I sense on the smaller SCG we will need Francis to stay in with Fox the Sub. The spoil and height of Francis will be important early on in the first half when more congested and willing. If the game opens up more then Fox would be a handy sub for the backline.

      Although I like Robbo on the SCG, he did look tired and off the pace last week in Freeo. He is only young and it has been a big 10 weeks in Snrs. Robbo will be there there about every week from now on anyway, so a week off might be good for him this week to freshen up. Campbell sliced it up in Ressies and his kicking, run and speed off the mark will be very handy this week in my opinion.

      The next question is “are we a better team right now with Luke Parker in the 23?”

      I think we are. Yet it is complicated because of the rise and rise of Heeney in 2024 playing somewhat Lukes past role and at an elite level. So for me I would have JJ playing more Sam Wicks role and drop Sam Wicks this week to get Parker back in the team and especially on the smaller SCG.

      JJ has many strings to his bow vs Sam wicks primarily a pressure small forward only. Sam has been playing ok but JJ much better.

      JJ has been spending some of the time up front anyway and between Patch, Parker and JJ rotating through the forwards and midfield along with Warner getting a little time one on one up front also…..I think there is less dependency on a one dimensional player like Wicks only playing in the forwards as a pressure role.

      Isn’t it amazing that we are in a cycle where Parker and Campbell are not automatic INS.

      Loving this season and look forward to see Parks back on the SCG along with BJ.

      INS

      Parker
      Campbell


      OUTS

      Roberts
      Wicks

      Sub-Fox
      I think this is a neat solution to a difficult problem. While acknowledging, as you have, that both Roberts and Wicks have been very strong and would be unlucky to lose their spot.

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      • longmile
        Crumber
        • Apr 2011
        • 3364

        #18
        Originally posted by Hotpotato
        The game is SOLD OUT .
        Perrotett is doubtful , busted up finger.
        Does anyone know what this means for GA members? Can we still just rock up to the game 30 min before the bounce and get a seat? Cheers


        Also my suggested changes for FWIW are-

        OUTS: Roberts (rested), Francis (omitted)
        INS: Parker (sub), Edwards

        Fox to start in defence. Francis was horrible on the weekend. Give young Edwards a crack, he sounds the goods
        Last edited by longmile; 14 May 2024, 09:57 AM.

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        • graemed
          Swans2win
          • Jan 2003
          • 410

          #19
          Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald

          With match ups in the Blues backline and McCartin still out I sense on the smaller SCG we will need Francis to stay in with Fox the Sub. The spoil and height of Francis will be important early on in the first half when more congested and willing.
          I too think the selection conundrum is fantastic for the club but hard on the players. I agree that if we are committed to a tall defender that Francis is our most likely option but I guess I’m not sure if that is our best strategy.
          Francis is strong in an aerial contest particularly a heavily contested one but so are Melican, Rampe and Blakey.
          My reasons for staying with Fox ahead of Francis is Martin and Kotterel. I also feel that when in possession, Francis is not reliable under pressure and either by hand or foot gives it up too easily.
          I am unconvinced that Roberts is weary rather that he was coming off a 5 hour flight in a new environment and a 5 day break, moreover I thought he more than did his job which to pressure and provide support on exit.
          Should Parker and Campbell be selected, absolutely, but at whose expense.
          Parker for Wicks, maybe, but no-one could dispute the great job Wicks is doing with pressure acts in our F50 nor his ability to convert when given the opportunity. Maybe, Iike for like, Adams is the only role that resembles what Parker brings to the table but so far he has been an outstanding replacement and has enhanced the roles of Heeney, Warner and Rowbottom by breaking open packs and killing the ball when the opposition looks likely to get clean clearances. I thought maybe Lloyd was vulnerable but he has been terrific since the GWS game and wont lose his spot easily.
          I can honestly say that if anybody loses their spot it’ll be hard for them to break back in, failing injury, and I’m so glad that I don’t’t have to actually decide who should be in the senior 23. Although speculation is the grist for this mill so here goes:

          Sydney v Carlton

          In: Parker

          Out: Francis

          Sub: Roberts


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          • Hotpotato
            Senior Player
            • Jun 2014
            • 2267

            #20
            Nope , I doubt it .
            Have a look at the TIKETEK map, only disabled seats avaiable in the whole of the SCG.

            Have you got a Moonboot lying around !

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            • Mel_C
              Veterans List
              • Jan 2003
              • 4470

              #21
              Originally posted by longmile
              Also my suggested changes for FWIW are-

              OUTS: Roberts (rested), Francis (omitted)
              INS: Parker (sub), Edwards

              Fox to start in defence. Francis was horrible on the weekend. Give young Edwards a crack, he sounds the goods
              The Swans injury update said Edwards received a cut on his leg that got infected so he won't be available this week.

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              • Captain
                Captain of the Side
                • Feb 2004
                • 3602

                #22
                Originally posted by Trever
                The most random suggestion you’ve heard. That’s dramatic.

                I guess if Tom D-K takes 10 marks, kicks 4 goals, destroys Francis in attack and totally outgunnes McLean in the ruck then we may revisit my suggestion.
                Yep, Grundy is as much of a key defender as Harry Cunningham is a ruckman.

                I did also post that I would drop Francis and agree he isn’t the solution. Fox or Blakey will handle TDK fine.

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                • Trever
                  Suspended by the MRP
                  • Mar 2024
                  • 73

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Captain
                  Yep, Grundy is as much of a key defender as Harry Cunningham is a ruckman.

                  I did also post that I would drop Francis and agree he isn’t the solution. Fox or Blakey will handle TDK fine.
                  TDK is a rucking tall target in a forward line. Not a traditional key forward. He’s dangerous on smaller players. Grundy can take a resting ruckman. TDK will spend significant time in the ruck which brings Grundy into the ruck. Ladhams takes Perotette and we solve the height problem. I prefer to keep Blakey on a small opponent so he can help out Rampe and Melican in the air.

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                  • BRS328
                    Warming the Bench
                    • Feb 2018
                    • 354

                    #24
                    If you have a look at the replay Francis took more intercept marks last weekend than any of the other tall defenders on either side. With McCartin not available this week, and coming up against the Carlton tall forwards there is no way Francis will be dropped for this game.
                    I agree Francis looked a little shaky early in the game missing a couple of targets, but as the game progressed he settled down and did his job. I should also add Gulden missed a couple early on, but then more than made up for it.

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                    • BRS328
                      Warming the Bench
                      • Feb 2018
                      • 354

                      #25
                      AG,
                      I am in agreement with you, but you are not going to make many changes to a winning team. For mine Campbell for Robert’s who looked a little tired last weekend. Parks to miss again but he will get his chance.

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                      • SwanSand
                        Regular in the Side
                        • Aug 2020
                        • 525

                        #26
                        Pittonet is most likely out ? Finger surgery
                        I think Parker comes in for Wicks. Parker deep forward whilst Papley gets cincotta tag. Parker helps to get around weitering.
                        Jordan will have to take on Walsh and hopefully Rowbottom and Grundy together handle Cripps in the middle. We get these three contests right we should be better than them. But again, Carlton is ver strong

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                        • graemed
                          Swans2win
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 410

                          #27
                          Originally posted by BRS328
                          If you have a look at the replay Francis took more intercept marks last weekend than any of the other tall defenders on either side. With McCartin not available this week, and coming up against the Carlton tall forwards there is no way Francis will be dropped for this game.
                          I agree Francis looked a little shaky early in the game missing a couple of targets, but as the game progressed he settled down and did his job. I should also add Gulden missed a couple early on, but then more than made up for it.

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                          • graemed
                            Swans2win
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 410

                            #28
                            Originally posted by graemed
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                            I agree that Francis is an excellent mark but he is not quick to react and gets lost in many of the ground ball contests. This puts him under pressure in most situations which exaggerates his inability to hit targets. Even in set plays, such as after frees or marks, he and Grundy, it must be said, lack poise with the footy. This does make him less valuable than other players and, in my opinion, Fox and Roberts are more capable.


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                            • Thunder Shaker
                              Aut vincere aut mori
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 4183

                              #29
                              In: Parker, Campbell
                              Out: Papley, Roberts (both managed - Papley seems to be carrying an injury and Roberts needs a spell)

                              Parker to spend some time in the forward line. Campbell across half back.
                              "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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                              • Mel_C
                                Veterans List
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 4470

                                #30
                                Jack Martin strained a calf at training and will be out for our game.

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