AFLW list management 2023

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • liz
    Veteran
    Site Admin
    • Jan 2003
    • 16745

    #46
    There was, I gather, much angst amongst the Victorian clubs when Rowbottom and Ham were, in successive years, "lost" to the Melbourne clubs. Of course, this rule change wouldn't have kept either Rowbottom or Ham in Melbourne had they wanted to go to Gold Coast or Sydney respectively. The Suns and Swans had the first picks in the draft so all they had to do was promise the two that they would be picked first and get them to nominate for the National pool. It would, however, have stymied the Swans' chances of drafting Hurley.

    Most of all it seems a little unfair on the women. Unlike their male counterparts, who are drafted into a full-time job and paid pretty decently (for an 18 year old) right from the start, the women have to think about the rest of their lives too. Careers, study options. At least part of the reason that Ham and Hurley chose Sydney was that there were courses at Sydney universities that they wanted to do. Ham is studying something in the sports science field and maybe there are lots of equivalent courses at universities everywhere. Hurley, too, could probably be studying architecture elsewhere but I'm sure I've read somewhere (but now can't find the article) that there was something about the course that she's enrolled in that was particularly attractive to her. The fact we don't have a national draft recognises that part-time players can't be expected to organise their life locations purely around footy, but it seems unfair that they then can't choose where in the country they want to live / work / study. It's either home or no choice.

    Comment

    • liz
      Veteran
      Site Admin
      • Jan 2003
      • 16745

      #47
      Further to my post above, I have found this article confirming that, for Ham, it was partly a university choice.

      AFLW news 2022: AFL Women’s Draft, top prospects, Montana Ham, Sofia Hurley, nominate New South Wales, Sydney Swans

      Comment

      • liz
        Veteran
        Site Admin
        • Jan 2003
        • 16745

        #48
        So now the club has announced a list of eight players who have recommitted to the club for 2024. I guess it is normal for the AFLW that most players are on year-to-year contracts.

        The eight players confirmed are Privitelli, the Irish trio, Mitchell, Woodward, Heads and Beruldsen.

        But that still means a fair proportion of the squad from last year is yet to be locked in. Presumably they're not all about to leave, and the club is gradually working its way down the list offering contracts as it sees fit. But as far as I know, none of these players were already signed on a multi-year contract and so have their futures still to be determined:

        - Szigeti
        - Steane
        - Smith
        - Lexi Hamilton
        - Whelan
        - Sargent-Wilson
        - Sheppard
        - Vale
        - Bullas
        - Collier
        - Lochland

        It is possible some had already extended. Lochland, for example, might have come to the club on a multi-year contract given her status as a past premiership player.

        But the length of the list suggests we could yet see more players depart and further draft or free agent spots open up.

        Comment

        • Ruck'n'Roll
          Ego alta, ergo ictus
          • Nov 2003
          • 3990

          #49
          Rookie me published this 2023 AFLW Draft State-by-State analysis: New South Wales - Aussie Rules Rookie Me Central
          Couldn't we have grabbed either Blattman or Baukes in the same way as we grabbed Holly Cooper if we rated them?

          Comment

          • liz
            Veteran
            Site Admin
            • Jan 2003
            • 16745

            #50
            Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
            Rookie me published this 2023 AFLW Draft State-by-State analysis: New South Wales - Aussie Rules Rookie Me Central
            Couldn't we have grabbed either Blattman or Baukes in the same way as we grabbed Holly Cooper if we rated them?
            I believe so, if they agreed to being recruited in this way. Maybe they fancy spreading their wings or (more likely) the Swans weren't convinced they are better prospects than others that might be available at the draft.

            We are allowed to recruit three players in total using this concession. So maybe the Swans think there are a couple of better prospects next year.

            Comment

            • Ruck'n'Roll
              Ego alta, ergo ictus
              • Nov 2003
              • 3990

              #51
              Originally posted by liz
              So now the club has announced a list of eight players who have recommitted to the club for 2024. I guess it is normal for the AFLW that most players are on year-to-year contracts.

              The eight players confirmed are Privitelli, the Irish trio, Mitchell, Woodward, Heads and Beruldsen.

              But that still means a fair proportion of the squad from last year is yet to be locked in. Presumably they're not all about to leave, and the club is gradually working its way down the list offering contracts as it sees fit. But as far as I know, none of these players were already signed on a multi-year contract and so have their futures still to be determined:

              - Szigeti
              - Steane
              - Smith
              - Lexi Hamilton
              - Whelan
              - Sargent-Wilson
              - Sheppard
              - Vale
              - Bullas
              - Collier
              - Lochland

              It is possible some had already extended. Lochland, for example, might have come to the club on a multi-year contract given her status as a past premiership player.

              But the length of the list suggests we could yet see more players depart and further draft or free agent spots open up.
              I think Heads on year-to-year is odd, but others may disagree.

              I thought Alana Woodward may be in a bit of trouble earlier this season, plus she's our most senior player. But she was one of those that kept going during the Adelaide slaughter. Very commendable.
              Steane was very good this year, statistically better than the previous year.
              Dumping Collier after the best clubman award would be pretty cold
              LexiH is our most used plan B ruck department atm - so she'll be needed. I know Smith and Mitchell are both taller but Lexi seems the go to option.
              Bullass' place may depend on how she is progressing
              I refuse to allow Ruby Sargent-Wilson to be delisted, much better to recruit someone called Catherine Mainwaring and make a set.
              Newmans departure makes Lochland a more certain retention doesn't it?

              - - - Updated - - -

              Originally posted by liz
              We are allowed to recruit three players in total using this concession.
              That it's 3 in total I hadn't known - thanks
              Last edited by Ruck'n'Roll; 19 January 2024, 01:15 PM.

              Comment

              • Ruck'n'Roll
                Ego alta, ergo ictus
                • Nov 2003
                • 3990

                #52
                Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
                Rookie me published this 2023 AFLW Draft State-by-State analysis: New South Wales - Aussie Rules Rookie Me Central
                Couldn't we have grabbed either Blattman or Baukes in the same way as we grabbed Holly Cooper if we rated them?
                And now they have previewed what the Swans will do at tomorrow's draft - 2023 AFLW Draft preview: Sydney - Aussie Rules Rookie Me Central

                Comment

                • liz
                  Veteran
                  Site Admin
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 16745

                  #53
                  Cat B rookie? In the AFLW?

                  The draft rules and process in the AFLW make the men's competition equivalents look like kindergarten play in comparison.

                  Comment

                  • Ruck'n'Roll
                    Ego alta, ergo ictus
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 3990

                    #54
                    Gosh the Swans AFLW twitter feed is fast.
                    We used #15 pick to force Brissie to match on Long, Then took Sarah Grunden - an 168cm forward.
                    Then our second and final pick was Lara Hausegger a 170cm defender - also from Victoria.
                    Last edited by Ruck'n'Roll; 19 December 2023, 02:27 AM.

                    Comment

                    • liz
                      Veteran
                      Site Admin
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 16745

                      #55
                      We don’t have a great track record with Sarahs. We delisted two last year, at least one of whom stood out for her skills in the couple of matches she played (not in a good way). And we delisted our final Sarah this year after she was the only non-injured player not to get a game.

                      Hopefully it will be fourth time lucky.

                      Comment

                      • Ruck'n'Roll
                        Ego alta, ergo ictus
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 3990

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
                        LexiH is our most used plan B ruck department atm - so she'll be needed.
                        Twitter interviewette with Cynthia includes her talking about her closeness with her sister https://twitter.com/SydneySwansAFLW/...40754307486146 - which suggests 'Lexi will be staying with the Swans.
                        Which reduces the number of last years players still in limbo to 10.
                        Hayley Bullas
                        Maddy Collier
                        Brooke Lochland
                        Ruby Sargent-Wilson
                        Paige Sheppard
                        Bella R. Smith
                        Lisa Steane
                        Lauren Szigeti
                        Eliza Vale
                        Aimee Whelan
                        Last edited by Ruck'n'Roll; 19 January 2024, 12:06 AM.

                        Comment

                        • Ruck'n'Roll
                          Ego alta, ergo ictus
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 3990

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
                          Twitter interviewette with Cynthia includes her talking about her closeness with her sister x.com - which suggests 'Lexi will be staying with the Swans.
                          Which reduces the number of last years players still in limbo to 10.
                          Hayley Bullas
                          Maddy Collier
                          Brooke Lochland
                          Ruby Sargent-Wilson
                          Paige Sheppard
                          Bella R. Smith
                          Lisa Steane
                          Lauren Szigeti
                          Eliza Vale
                          Aimee Whelan
                          And all 10 will be part of the Swans ALFW season. No new names other the the 5 discussed earlier.

                          Comment

                          Working...