Rnd 15 Teams: v Hawthorn

[connolly]

3 goals at least last weekend.

No one opponent. So if a defender is played on three forwards during a match and they all snag one goal against him whilst he keeps them quiet he's had a shocker?

[NMWBloods]

Thomas kicked two goals on our other form back flanker and used him as a step ladder as well - Mattner. Bevo was moved onto Thomas because Mattner was well beaten by him in the first quarter. He kicked one gaol on Bevo and his influence faded after the first quarter. He was moved back onto Medhurst after half time after Medhurst looked damgerous. Makes sense to put the best small defender on the oppositions most dangerous players.

Yes, Roos chose to move his premier defender - Bevan - onto Medhurst and then as an afterthought decided he should do something about Thomas, so moved that hack C Bolton onto him. I guess Bolton just got lucky by totally shutting Thomas out of the game - obviously Thomas was shellshocked from Bevan's treatment and was so excited that Bevan had been moved off him that he lost concentration. Meanwhile Medhurst racked up a lazy 21 possessions and kicked 2 goals.

[SimonH]

So leo on Williams then? Jack pressuring Mitchell and running off him would replicate the job he did on Kerr. Give him their best mid and lets see what happens. Bevo on Guerra - he better have some extra stength glue under the wig as the tackling will be fierce

Realistically, I think Barry will go on Williams if they don't give him the (over-dangerous) job on Roughead. However, I'd prefer to see Jack trialled on Williams (who is hot & cold and might do nothing all game) at first.
I'd generally like to see Leo put on the opposition's least-credentialled and/or slowest forward (this week as the teams are named, that's Michael Osborne) and play as an attacking defender with license to create. Much as that pains Swans supporters who can't bear the heart-in-mouth style, good sides won't just gift Sydney run from the backlines. We have to take risks to create run.

[hammo]

No one opponent. So if a defender is played on three forwards during a match and they all snag one goal against him whilst he keeps them quiet he's had a shocker?

Does that include the goal he gifted to Collingwood? I can't remember if the Magpie who kicked it after receiving a bevan handpass 10 metres out was his direct opponent.

[reigning premier]

Does that include the goal he gifted to Collingwood? I can't remember if the Magpie who kicked it after receiving a bevan handpass 10 metres out was his direct opponent.

Wasn't that Leo Barry?

[Plugger46]

I'd generally like to see Leo put on the opposition's least-credentialled and/or slowest forward (this week as the teams are named, that's Michael Osborne) and play as an attacking defender with license to create. Much as that pains Swans supporters who can't bear the heart-in-mouth style, good sides won't just gift Sydney run from the backlines. We have to take risks to create run.

Could not agree more Simon.

[TheMase]

Wasn't that Leo Barry?

That was Leo, pretty sure Bevo gave off a handpass to a player streaming into forward 50 though.

[Plugger46]

Wasn't that Leo Barry?

I thought Mattner gave it to Leo?

Maybe we're talking different goals!

[reigning premier]

That was Leo, pretty sure Bevo gave off a handpass to a player streaming into forward 50 though.

Lol... sounds about right....

But I knew there was a LB special in there somewhere...

[connolly]

Yes, Roos chose to move his premier defender - Bevan - onto Medhurst and then as an afterthought decided he should do something about Thomas, so moved that hack C Bolton onto him. I guess Bolton just got lucky by totally shutting Thomas out of the game - obviously Thomas was shellshocked from Bevan's treatment and was so excited that Bevan had been moved off him that he lost concentration. Meanwhile Medhurst racked up a lazy 21 possessions and kicked 2 goals.

So Medhurst got 21 possessions in half a game? Bevans statistics don't lie. Maximum 10 possessions per game by his opponents. No more than 2 goals per game. Any small defender better was the question. All i got in response was emotive impressions. Statistics gentlemen please!

[NMWBloods]

Realistically, I think Barry will go on Williams if they don't give him the (over-dangerous) job on Roughead. However, I'd prefer to see Jack trialled on Williams (who is hot & cold and might do nothing all game) at first.
I'd generally like to see Leo put on the opposition's least-credentialled and/or slowest forward (this week as the teams are named, that's Michael Osborne) and play as an attacking defender with license to create. Much as that pains Swans supporters who can't bear the heart-in-mouth style, good sides won't just gift Sydney run from the backlines. We have to take risks to create run.

Absolutely - it is the best way to take advantage of his run (as bizarre as it can be) and also his ability to come over and help against the top Hawthorn forwards.

[NMWBloods]

So Medhurst got 21 possessions in half a game? Bevans statistics don't lie. Maximum 10 possessions per game by his opponents. No more than 2 goals per game. Any small defender better was the question. All i got in response was emotive impressions. Statistics gentlemen please!

In total, for the game, Bevan's opponents had about 20 possessions and kicked 3 goals.

[connolly]

Realistically, I think Barry will go on Williams if they don't give him the (over-dangerous) job on Roughead. However, I'd prefer to see Jack trialled on Williams (who is hot & cold and might do nothing all game) at first.

Just think Jack is wasted in a back pocket. We need his zip running off his opponent in the midfield. Yhe Mayblooms midfield isn't particulary quick, which is why we generally do very well against them. The more pace running off them the better.

[connolly]

In total, for the game, Bevan's opponents had about 20 possessions and kicked 3 goals.

Still searching for a stat to rival Bevos?

[Pace To Burn]

Realistically, I think Barry will go on Williams if they don't give him the (over-dangerous) job on Roughead. However, I'd prefer to see Jack trialled on Williams (who is hot & cold and might do nothing all game) at first.

Just think Jack is wasted in a back pocket. We need his zip running off his opponent in the midfield. Yhe Mayblooms midfield isn't particulary quick, which is why we generally do very well against them. The more pace running off them the better.

Jacks Zip really isnt that consistant throughout a game. he does a couple of explosive things normally a game and everyone says wow what a great game he had(eg Vs Port the first time) but he doesnt get a heap of the footy. Shutting down an opponent is def his best attribute rather than damaging in attack.