Bring Back No.14

[mja]

Originally posted by SimonH
I'm too scared to put this sentiment in its own thread, lest I be lynched, so I'll write it timidly here:

BBBH-- you were great, you were inspirational, you're now a premiership captain, and we pray you'll be a huge part of the leadership group for many years to come.

But Kirky for cap'n 2006 all the way. If the last 2 weeks hasn't proved that this man is the heart and soul of the playing group (and the moral successor to P. Kelly), then I haven't been paying attention.

Why be scared ... I think you are correct

Hall almost did not make the game because of a STUPID action
And only a few weeks bak he cost us a game against Adelaide (gave away a silly 50)

Barry Hall can lead and inspire ... but I think he is too volatile, umpires can take a dislike to him (and the team)

Hall is great for the NRL marketing machine as Capt. ie he looks the type a Parra supporter can relate to - and he is payed a bunch

BUT Kirk inspired the team vs Cats (3rd qtr huddle) he has the passion and can talk the talk and walk the walk

A Buddist capt of a footy team... ONLY IN SYDNEY !!! ...

[Ruck'n'Roll]

I think the finals suggests Barry isn't the man for the job, my only question about Kirk is his age. Both he and Goodes grew when made captain. I would have liked to see Goodes get a second go

[Sanecow]

Points for Bazza:

1. #1 goalkicker in the AFL, 2005.
2. AFL Coaches' Association player of the year award.
3. Highest # of Brownlow votes for the club.
4. All Australian, 2005.
5. Only Swans multiple goalkicker in the Grand Final.
6. Captained the Swans to a Premiership victory.

I dunno. He's alright.

[Bleed Red Blood]

Originally posted by timthefish
if the fuss was put aside and it was just given to a young, perhaps relatively low-profile, player then the expectation, pressure and resultant disappointment would be lessened. or we might get a nice suprise.

Like the Roos giving Moran N18 this year.

Kirk for captain.

[Ruck'n'Roll]

Originally posted by Sanecow
1. #1 goalkicker in the AFL, 2005.

Although his output while captain was significantly lower.

Originally posted by Sanecow
2. AFL Coaches' Association player of the year award.

Not "captain of the year" though

Originally posted by Sanecow
3. Highest # of Brownlow votes for the club.
4. All Australian, 2005.

Once again that's Barry the player

Originally posted by Sanecow
5. Only Swans multiple goalkicker in the Grand Final.

Yes, well no-ones noming MOL as captain.

Originally posted by Sanecow
6. Captained the Swans to a Premiership victory.

Kirky addressed the troops didn't he?


Wow our first disagreement of the 2006 season! Sanecow and I are in good form already.

[ugg]

Originally posted by Sanecow
Points for Bazza:

1. #1 goalkicker in the AFL, 2005.
2. AFL Coaches' Association player of the year award.
3. Highest # of Brownlow votes for the club.
4. All Australian, 2005.
5. Only Swans multiple goalkicker in the Grand Final.
6. Captained the Swans to a Premiership victory.

I dunno. He's alright.

7. He won the toss!

[ihamilto]

I would be tempted to give the no 14 to a brilliant young midfielder some good judges rate Josh Willoughby the equal of Darren Jarman when it comes to skills by hand and foot if he is anything like Jarman then the no 14 will fit nicely on his back.
cheers Ian

[Sanecow]

Originally posted by Ruckman
Wow our first disagreement of the 2006 season! Sanecow and I are in good form already.

I am on the Kirk bandwagon, don't you worry. My jump is documented in a thread somewhere. It just ********s me no end to read stuff like:

"he cost us a game against Adelaide"

and

"umpires can take a dislike to him (and the team)"

When the umpires gave Hall more Brownlow votes than any other Swans player and we wouldn't have a flag without him.

[BayesysLeftBoot]

I feel it's time for another poll.

[C-Train]

14 to Amon and dual captaincy should go to Hall and Kirky!

[mja]

Originally posted by Sanecow
I am on the Kirk bandwagon, don't you worry. My jump is documented in a thread somewhere. It just ********s me no end to read stuff like:

"he cost us a game against Adelaide"

and

"umpires can take a dislike to him (and the team)"

When the umpires gave Hall more Brownlow votes than any other Swans player and we wouldn't have a flag without him.

careful with ********s me no end? it can cause constipation!
Fair points re the Brownlow votes and the GF

BUT my view is the best player is maybe not the best leader
(should Kelly have been skipper .. or Lockett..or wait for it ... P Roos?)

My comment on the Adelaide game... I seem to remember Hall giving away a 50 at a very crucial time ... do you remember this?

[tez]

Hard to make #14 the captains jumper when we had 5 captains
in 1 season.

[Slick Swans]

About the no. 14
My 2 cents, give it to Buchy, I was proud as punch as to the way he played in the last q. when it mattered. If he makes it famous again, great. If not, so be it.