Blooper of the Year ?

[Alison]

True. And for arguments sake, even though he had a great game, Mathews kicked the ball out of defence (straight up the line) twice in a row to a tall Brisbane player in the last quarter. Because a mistake is made in defence, everyone seems to notice it more (especially if it is in the last quarter).

[NMWBloods]

It was noticeable in the 3rd qtr than a few more unforced errors crept into our game when the pressure increased. I complained at the time when Matthews kicked straight to their ruckmen when there were better options inside.

It may seem churlish to complain about a few errors when we had such a great win, but I would love to see us reduce the number of these silly unforced errors. That is one of the characteristics of a great side.

[SWANSBEST]

Dermot of the high piched voice said that if the Swans stop playing high risk football then we will not win too many games. We lack the manpower of teams like the Lions who thrive on the ball being kicked to a contested mark situation . When we play the style of football that we have been playing we will somtimes make bloopers.
I really can not see much point bagging a high possession player like Cressa and others because they will always make a few errors due to the sheer quanity of possessions they win. IE Who is more value to the team ? the player who wins 30 possessions and makes 2 mistakes or the player who wins 6 possessions and makes no mistakes. I know who I would rather have in my team

[NMWBloods]

Was this directed at me?

[Roscoe]

Agree 100%

FIGJAM (Buckley) makes more clangers than any other player from
the pies, but gets more touches than any other player. The more you get the ball the more chance you have to stuff up.

But who would not wan't buckley playing in the red and white because of his clangers.

Funny how we haven't lost a game since Cressa came back and we lost 3 when he was injured ?.

Agree that the style we played yesterday - run and risk was our best chance against Brizzie.

The question is - do we change our style to suit different teams

Even though the lions came back in Q3 I really admired our lads
that we just played grafting footy.

This week is a real test. We need to come back to earth and not
get ahead of ourselves and drop games that we shoul win.

[NMWBloods]

Do people understand different types of errors, such as unforced and the like? I don't care how many times you touch it or what style of game you are playing, you should not see errors like some of the ones Leo did.

[liz]

Kind of agree with NMW, except that I wonder whether any error is truly unforced - it's all a matter of degrees.

[Plugger46]

Originally posted by Roscoe
Hey Plugger 46 another scalp on crouch's belt ?

After Moorecroft (who you said you could beat), he's done the job
on matchwinners like didak and Aker.(who got dragged)

And just like I said, he is a good shot for goal from a set shot.

Another one of your targets Matthews, was again brilliant.

He's not my favourite player, but he'll do me.

At least I saw your lovechild Warfe kick to a red jumper for a change

Yeah lace out he hit micky on the chest, thought of your goodself immediately Roscoe.

Both Didak and Akermannis have been struggling for form in the last couple of weeks, so lets see how Crouch goes on a player in form, saying that though, all you can do is beat your opponent and he has done that. His goal was great, no arguments there.

Matthews played the best game I've ever seen him play, however you look in the second half when the pressure was on, he started to struggle, and a couple of his kicks in the last quarter were woeful.

All in all great win and no real reason to be bagging anyone.

[Bear]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
Yep - Hall missing a couple of gettable shots is nearly as bad. Still, I think a shot from 40m has more pressure than a simple pass to an unmarked player.

really? why is (say) missing the middle of the goals by around 10 metres from 40 metres away (scoring a behind) that different to missing a guy near the boundary line by around 10 metres from 40 metres away (OOTF)??

in fact, there is less margin for error on the second, and the set shot for goal has much more time, so do you still think it is easier?

[penga]

NMW, did u look above the ladies stand after leo kicked that ball??? hmmm... if u did look up there you woulda seen that the flags were flapping furiously from the wind in the direction that that kick was aimed at jude... the wind grabbed it and pushed it a good 15m further than intended... i know that that doesnt cover his kick to kennelly or right foot OOF, but your base to your argument is the previously mentioned kick... one reason - WIND

warfe didnt go to badly, im the first bagger of warfe on this site i must admit and i thought he did ok... BUT he did not hit magic laces out on the chest... it was magic's talent and experience combined with brennan's inexperience that got magic that mark, not warfe's kick!!!

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by Bear
really? why is (say) missing the middle of the goals by around 10 metres from 40 metres away (scoring a behind) that different to missing a guy near the boundary line by around 10 metres from 40 metres away (OOTF)??

in fact, there is less margin for error on the second, and the set shot for goal has much more time, so do you still think it is easier?

Leo had plenty of time as he had a mark, so I don't think time is a factor. I think there is more pressure on when shooting at goal than when delivering to someone over 50m from their nearest opponent. Also, kicking to someone that far in the clear doesn't require a precision kick nor a high kick nor a penetrating kick, which shots at goal do.

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by penga
NMW, did u look above the ladies stand after leo kicked that ball??? hmmm... if u did look up there you woulda seen that the flags were flapping furiously from the wind in the direction that that kick was aimed at jude... the wind grabbed it and pushed it a good 15m further than intended... i know that that doesnt cover his kick to kennelly or right foot OOF, but your base to your argument is the previously mentioned kick... one reason - WIND

I did see the strong wind, but a good footballer should allow for that, particularly when it is the last qtr and it has been the same all game. If it had been once then excusable, but three times...!!

[penga]

the wind had been going up the ground all game, not across field! the wind had changed...

[gloveski]

Barry may make some bad skill errors but he also has the uncanny knack of breaking up the play because if he doesn't know were he is going what hope have the opposition got .

As for skill errors 9 out of 10 times it is confidence ...have a look at the improvement in Matthews kicking the last few weeks.

I also notted that Saddo used alot of effective handballs were he would normally kick it.

Some of out turnovers were poor but I am sure if you annalize the game Brisbane would have had alot more than us.ie continually hanballing to a guy that was flat footed or hot

[Bear]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
Also, kicking to someone that far in the clear doesn't require a precision kick nor a high kick nor a penetrating kick, which shots at goal do.

Hey???

It DOES require a precision kick when it is near the boundary line, over 40-50m and the wind is strong.

It DOES require height when over this distance.

It DOES require penetration when over this distance.

Using your logic on Leo, if a full forward misses one or two relatively easy set shots in a game he has the clanger of the year. Hall - dropped, O'Loughlin - dropped.

i think that Stuey's kick on the wing which really WAS a "simple pass to an unmarked player" OVER HALF THE DISTANCE was in fact a far worse skill error.... Maxfield - dropped.