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  • Newbie
    On the Rookie List
    • Mar 2003
    • 720

    Originally posted by Charlie
    Correct. They still hold the trump card.
    Are we looking to improve our list or simply to get him ??

    If we are looking to improve our list then we are still holding the trump card. We could always opt out if no fair deal is possible.

    For the Hawks, Everitt's staying is worse off than he is traded.

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    • Charlie
      On the Rookie List
      • Jan 2003
      • 4101

      The Swans wouldn't be sailing as close as they are to tampering with another club's list (which is what we've effectively done; offered a contracted player a better deal so he'll ask for a trade) if they weren't very keen to get him.

      This could yet go either way.
      We hate Anthony Rocca
      We hate Shannon Grant too
      We hate scumbag Gaspar
      But Leo WE LOVE YOU!

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      • punter257
        Deadliest Left Boot
        • Aug 2004
        • 1660

        but surely if he doesnt want to be there they'll try to work something out
        Roosy = LEGEND

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        • dendol
          fat-arsed midfielder
          • Oct 2003
          • 1483

          I dont think theres any question Hawthorn won't take O'Keefe if offered.

          Will the addition of Everitt for the next 2 or 3 years counter the loss of O'Keefe and allow us to continue to challenge for a flag? I think O'Keefe is a vital cog we cant afford to lose and that Everitt won't get us another flag without O'Keefe there as well.

          I'd give any of our midfielders, apart from Kirk, to Hawthorn before I'd consider O'Keefe, but I know thats highly unlikely. I

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          • sydfan83
            Senior Player
            • Jan 2003
            • 2929

            No, not O'Keefe - he's too important to the forward line structure even when not kicking goals. As long as he keeps his work rate up he is a required player. Spida may boost our chances of going back-to-back, but if we trade O'Keefe this will lessen our chances IMO.

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            • Plugger46
              Senior Player
              • Apr 2003
              • 3674

              Originally posted by punter257
              but surely if he doesnt want to be there they'll try to work something out
              You would think so.
              Bloods

              "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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              • Newbie
                On the Rookie List
                • Mar 2003
                • 720

                Originally posted by sydfan83
                No, not O'Keefe - he's too important to the forward line structure even when not kicking goals. As long as he keeps his work rate up he is a required player. Spida may boost our chances of going back-to-back, but if we trade O'Keefe this will lessen our chances IMO.
                Totally agree. Taking RoK out, we have no second target on route to goal. Would make it so much easier for the the defence to negate.

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                • dendol
                  fat-arsed midfielder
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 1483

                  Does Jon Hay want to go home to Freo, or is he happy to just leave Hawthorn? We could do with a FB as well

                  Everitt + Hay for O'Keefe, Saddington + pick?

                  Honestly though, I'd rather keep the current team in tact and have Roos play Goodes in the ruck again, with Jolly to take the centre bounce. Get Goodes back in 2003 form and we'll romp it in with back to back flags!
                  Last edited by dendol; 4 October 2005, 07:14 PM.

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                  • OldE

                    I agree that Ryan is too important to trade. The depth of our forward line was one of the key reasons we won a flag. Why give that up for a has-been?

                    Besides, what should happen if we traded Ryan, then lost Mickey or Nick Davis to injury? We'd be every bit as stuffed as if we lost Doyle or Jolly to injury now.

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                    • dendol
                      fat-arsed midfielder
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 1483

                      Originally posted by eirinn
                      I agree that Ryan is too important to trade. The depth of our forward line was one of the key reasons we won a flag. Why give that up for a has-been?

                      Besides, what should happen if we traded Ryan, then lost Mickey or Nick Davis to injury? We'd be every bit as stuffed as if we lost Doyle or Jolly to injury now.
                      Bit harsh to call Spida a has-been. He's still playing very good footy (the umps think so too) and will be a very welcome tall-target in the forward line. His tap work may allow us to play a more attacking brand of footy from the stoppages too.

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                      • OldE

                        But how long does he have left? 2 years? 3 tops.

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                        • Charlie
                          On the Rookie List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 4101

                          Erin, he made All-Australian this year. He's a very long way from 'has-been' material.
                          We hate Anthony Rocca
                          We hate Shannon Grant too
                          We hate scumbag Gaspar
                          But Leo WE LOVE YOU!

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                          • Red
                            Foreign Correspondent
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 651

                            Originally posted by Charlie
                            Erin, he made All-Australian this year. He's a very long way from 'has-been' material.
                            Q: What kind of 'All-Australian' team has 3 Hawks in it, but no Judd (or Kirk for that matter)?

                            A: A dodgy one.

                            Still, Everitt's a very good player. But we do have a decent first ruckman, and a handy second if he's a bit luckier next season. And then there's Goodes. We don't need a marquee ruckman as much as some clubs.

                            So O'Keefe should be off the menu. We found, trained and persisted with him. Now he's paying off we'd be fools to let him go now. How many tireless, roaming, strong-marking half-forwards are up for grabs, compared to ruckmen?
                            To all those people who waited 72 years to see a South Melbourne/Sydney Swans premiership HERE IT IS!!

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                            • Charlie
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 4101

                              I don't favour trading O'Keefe. In fact, I would turn down a straight swap, Everitt for O'Keefe.
                              We hate Anthony Rocca
                              We hate Shannon Grant too
                              We hate scumbag Gaspar
                              But Leo WE LOVE YOU!

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                              • BayesysLeftBoot
                                On the Rookie List
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 523

                                Originally posted by Red
                                We don't need a marquee ruckman as much as some clubs.
                                How do you work that out? We are involved in more stopages than any team in the comp therefore rely much more heavily on ruckmen than other teams.

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