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[penga]

Originally posted by Charlie
You're right, but that's the up-side of this draft. We have no pressing needs - we can simply top-up with the best players. The choice isn't between meeting one need or the other, it's between choosing depth players that will be ready now or players that will be ready in 2008.

That's a luxury.

There is usually the common theme of "we need some young talls", well in my opinion we have already had our draft:


Richards
Vogels
Shaw
Grundy
Chambers

Sure these boys may have come via our rookie list and perceived overpriced trading, but who says that a tall that we would have picked with the same pick in the draft would turn out better. Who knows, this could be our 2011 premiership winning spine. Hindsight in a couple of years will determine whether or not this has been the right move, but we certainly have some young talls on our list now, and it seems we have our heads screwed on. Also, the thing that I appreciate about all these young talls is that they're not Kate Mosses, they have some size about them. What was that, Saddington and Powell?

I like the poll on sydneyswans.com.au (a first) where it lists our lower picks:

-O'loughlin #40
-Goodes #43
-O'Keefe #56
-Schneider #60
-Buchanan #45

All is not lost in this year's post season's moves.

[Jeffers1984]

Originally posted by penga

I like the poll on sydneyswans.com.au (a first) where it lists our lower picks:

-O'loughlin #40
-Goodes #43
-O'Keefe #56
-Schneider #60
-Buchanan #45

All is not lost in this year's post season's moves.

In 2 years time they will run this poll again and Malceski will have the highest % out of the lot.

[ScottH]

Originally posted by Jeffers1984
In 2 years time they will run this poll again and Malceski will have the highest % out of the lot.

It is part of their mind games to make us feel better about the low draft picks for 2005.

[Charlie]

Originally posted by penga
that they're not Kate Mosses, they have some size about them. .

Carlton had Laurence Angwin, but that didn't end so well.

[SimonH]

Originally posted by penga
There is usually the common theme of "we need some young talls", well in my opinion we have already had our draft:

Richards
Vogels
Shaw
Grundy
Chambers.

Once you throw in Jolly, Doyle, Goodes, BBBH, Ericksen, LRT, Matt Davis (sure ain't fat but is over 190cm) and Andrew Hayes (if retained as a rookie), I think there is no issue that, for the first time in years, Sydney has plenty enough talls on its list. Given that 8 of the above list have either not played at all in Sydney colours, or have played fewer than 20 games of firsts for us, the question is not whether we have enough, but whether enough of them will come up to scratch.

Plus we're not short of high-180s players like MO'L, ROK, Dempster, CBolt etc.

This means the very sad, but long-overdue, end of "Sydney have got to draft talls, talls and more talls" threads. Can we arrange some kind of casket and flowers?

[Ruck'n'Roll]

Originally posted by SimonH
This means the very sad, but long-overdue, end of "Sydney have got to draft talls, talls and more talls" threads. Can we arrange some kind of casket and flowers?

I think your bundeling of everyone over 6.3 as a "tall" is a little superficial. . . . and possibly heightist!

Yes, the arrival of Chapman and the promotion of Shaw has certainly bolstered our ruck stocks after Jason's retirement.

On the other hand while the arrival of SuperTed and the listing of Vogels and Grundy have added to our potential KPP stocks, the retirement of Schauble and the exporting of Saddo and Powell have subtracted from them.

So I don't think we have a surfeit of talls at all, at all at all.

What size players do you suggest we draft? More ooompah-looompah's like Monty, Schneider, Willoughby, More and Schmidt?

[penga]

Originally posted by SimonH
Plus we're not short of high-180s players like MO'L, ROK, Dempster, CBolt etc.

O'loughlin 190cm
O'Keefe 190cm
Dempster 192cm
Bolton 190cm

[penga]

Originally posted by Charlie
Carlton had Laurence Angwin, but that didn't end so well.

I'll pay that.

Originally posted by Ruckman
What size players do you suggest we draft? More ooompah-looompah's like Monty, Schneider, Willoughby, More and Schmidt?

To sprout the good ol' cliche, whatever is available with the most talent. We are not bereft of any such size, so pick and hope for the best.

I would suggest Dowler would be a player that we would take a punt with. Talented but badly injured, we won't need him for a couple of years so give it to him. Talented but injured would be the way to go IMO.

[Jeffers1984]

Originally posted by penga
I'll pay that.





I would suggest Dowler would be a player that we would take a punt with. Talented but badly injured, we won't need him for a couple of years so give it to him. Talented but injured would be the way to go IMO.

Agreed. If Beau Dowler was able to sneak down that far in the draft, we should have no hesitations in taking him.

[SimonH]

Originally posted by Ruckman

So I don't think we have a surfeit of talls at all, at all at all.

What size players do you suggest we draft? More ooompah-looompah's like Monty, Schneider, Willoughby, More and Schmidt?

We certainly don't need any more 175-184cm in-and-under midfielders. I'm happy with the 'best available' philosophy-- our squad is relatively balanced and if a player is good enough he'll find a spot. But, given a free hand, I'd say another outside midfielder (to complement Williams/McVeigh), a tough but quick midsized tagger/defender a la Crouch, and anyone who is (or will be) high-180s, is mobile and can take a mark, in the CBolt/Dempster/ROK mould. You never know yr luck in a big city, but with our picks, and the premium that recruiters place on height, we won't be picking the long-term replacement for BBBH or the next Goodes in 2005.

Originally posted by penga
O'loughlin 190cm
O'Keefe 190cm
Dempster 192cm
Bolton 190cm

You're obviously getting your info from the old 'Collingwood 6 footer' book. Or you've been doing the old 'get 'em in stilettos and measure them' trick. The Swans' website says:
MO'L 188cm
O'Keefe 187cm
Dempster 189cm
CBolt 188cm

[goswannie14]

Originally posted by SimonH
You're obviously getting your info from the old 'Collingwood 6 footer' book. Or you've been doing the old 'get 'em in stilettos and measure them' trick. The Swans' website says:
MO'L 188cm
O'Keefe 187cm
Dempster 189cm
CBolt 188cm

But 185 cm is 6 foot, so they are all taller by a few inches than a Collingwood 6 footer

[wedge.maverick]

Originally posted by Ruckman
When did Ricky Barham take charge of our recruiting?

I think around 1996

[punter257]

isnt guerra only 23 or 24?????

his baldness makes him look 10 years older
he can actually play footy when his mind isnt set on trying to belt everyone

but i doubt he'd be the type of player we're after but you never know when its a saints player

[Plugger46]

Not interested atall.

[penga]

Originally posted by SimonH
You're obviously getting your info from the old 'Collingwood 6 footer' book. Or you've been doing the old 'get 'em in stilettos and measure them' trick. The Swans' website says:
MO'L 188cm
O'Keefe 187cm
Dempster 189cm
CBolt 188cm

Never get your info from anywhere that is sponsored by Telstra or where they had Goodes listed at 191cm for about 5 years. According to that site he has grown 2cm in the last season. :rollseyes: He is 194cm FWIW.

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