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Originally posted by goswannie14 Ever noticed that Collingwood are a better team when Rocca doesn't play?
No.
Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.
"[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."
Re: Re: For those who wanted us to keep Shannon Grant...
Originally posted by liz I'm never sure about why so many people fail to realise that Grant was out of contract and "walked". Sure, he co-operated with the club to enable them to trade him and thus get some value in return, but the club had no say in the matter.
Originally posted by goswannie14 Don't hear anyone calling Nick Davis a mummy's boy
Surely you dont expect rational, even handed commentary when it comes to the subject of players wanting to leave a club.
Occupational hazards:
I don't eat animals since discovering this ability. I used to. But one day the lamb I was eating came through to me and ever since then I haven't been able to eat meat.
Re: Re: Re: For those who wanted us to keep Shannon Grant...
Originally posted by ScottH He wanted out at the first opportunity and took it.
Not exactly - he agreed to a one year contract beyond his original one, unlike Rocca who a) refused to move up here until mid-1995 and missed the first half of the season and b) returned to Melbourne after his inital contract of two years was up. As much as he may have wanted to head home, at least he remained part of the team that took him to his first grand final for another year.
Yet again, we see the effects of young footballers - out on the grog - reacting to whatever internal frustrations they're having spilling over into the predictable violent behaviour. Ditto the Colin Sylvia incident also reported these past few days.
We can joke about it all we like. But as someone who works closely in this area (managing aspects of liquor harm minimisation) - I see the abuse often enough to know that there is often a lot more going on at a deeper level than meets the eye.
Don't get me wrong - I like a grog or two (Dunc!), but bingeing & consequent loss of control is another thing altogether. Hence the club's (all of them) low tolerance to lack of discipline and the message that it sends to the team, supporters, sponsors and the wider community.
An unfortunate but necessary tool in enforcing compliance, is the public shaming that Grant & Sylvia would be feeling right now.
Good men do good deeds. Evil men do evil deeds. But it takes religion for a good man to do evil deeds.
All we want are players who want to play for the Swans. We have that now, and look where we got last year?
As soon as it becomes clear a player has lost heart, we should trade them ASAP.
Originally posted by graystar All we want are players who want to play for the Swans. We have that now, and look where we got last year?
As soon as it becomes clear a player has lost heart, we should trade them ASAP.
The only problem with that is that you may then have young players holding the club to ransom, either way though the club is then in a vulnerable position.
Originally posted by The Undertaker How would Shannon Grant improve our side?
Kicking goals.
Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.
"[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."
Originally posted by graystar All we want are players who want to play for the Swans. We have that now, and look where we got last year?
As soon as it becomes clear a player has lost heart, we should trade them ASAP.
A premiership!!! Too right GS. Couldn't agree more.
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