Barry, Crouch, Matthews

[Plugger46]

These 3 blokes simply cost the side, when put in a pressure situation.

Leo Barry- Dumb footballer

Jared Crouch- Got absolutely stitched up by Harvey.

Ben Matthews- Waste of space

[Roscoe]

Plugger I'm surprised its taken you nearly 6 hours to start bagging your "terrible trio"

To say that these 3 players cost us the game is crap !

They had plenty of mates out there today who didn't perform.

I could lower myself to your pathetic level and mention your lovechild Warfe, but that is just a waste of space.

it was the 1st time crouch was beaten all season

Barry gave us something called "running"

and Mathews was hardly our worst player.

A loss like today is going to happen. at least we weren't as bad as the game against Hawthorn

[desredandwhite]

Granted all 3 had moments of insanity, but they had plenty of company. Kennelly handballing directly to an opponent 10 metres on his own, Ball and Goodes getting flogged in the ruck by the human beanpole Burton, bad shots at goal from Goodsey, Warfe losing possession while trying to bounce the ball... all contributed to a bad loss.

[NMWBloods]

I agree with Des. I think everyone struggled today. Crouch had a fairly dirty day, but that's one of his first in a long time. Except for his two silly handballs in the last qtr (which I've commented on elsewhere) I thought Barry did okay. I thought Matthews was okay again today. I wonder when they are going to move him into the midfield.

Overall everyone had problems with the fumbles, overrunning the ball, hitting targets, being first to the ball and just generally being interested. It happens. Hopefully rarely though.

[desredandwhite]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
Overall everyone had problems with the fumbles, overrunning the ball,

At the risk of this turning into a back-slapping convention, I reckon you're absolutely spot on here - I'm struggling to recall another game I've seen IN SUCH GOOD CONDITIONS where the Swans have been unable to simply PICK THE DAMN THING UP!!!!

[Jimmy C]

Y'know, I reckon everybody was equally consistent in every area that contributed to the loss.

Maybe I'm just trying to deflect attention away from the boys here, and its probably of no consequence whatsoever, but I felt uneasy when I saw that Darren Goldspink was umpiring today.

Does anybody have a stat on free kicks and win/loss when he's officiating? Maybe its the beer talking, but I feel sure that he hates us. Today's tally was 9 to 14 in favour of the Roots. Even though our guys clearly gave some away, I felt that it was dreadfully inconsitent at times.

[Rizzo]

I didn't think Leo was that bad. He had some major brain explosions but also played hard on Archer. He also ran it out well MOST of the time.

Crouch was down sure, but cost the game????

I wouldn't have thought Mathews rated a mention. He was neither good nor bad.

Ball made some shocking decisions. Goodesy stuffed some golden opportunities and a lot of the other guys just generally fumbled about and turned the ball over.

Maxfield was a shining light and Hall did a good job - though he needs to work himself into the game when the ball isn't making its way to FF.

Overall, the guys looked flat, didn't execute the skills and lacked intensity. A day off and a long hard look at themselves is probably a good idea.

[Newbie]

Crouch is never going to cost us a game but he is neither going to win you a game. So why keep him in the team? Filling the space?

[desredandwhite]

Originally posted by Newbie
Crouch is never going to cost us a game but he is neither going to win you a game. So why keep him in the team? Filling the space?

*coughmatchwinninggoalagainstbrisbanecough*

I reckon it's a bit harsh to suggest that unless you are a matchwinner you shouldn't be in the side. Crouchie has a job to do most games and most of the time he does that job pretty well. I'm sure no team in the AFL has more than 5-10 genuine matchwinners.

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by Newbie
Crouch is never going to cost us a game but he is neither going to win you a game. So why keep him in the team? Filling the space?

Do you understand football? Do you think that every player has to be a matchwinner? Each player has a role to play and Crouch usually does his very well.

[Craig]

What about fumbling Fosdike? He is definately not a one grab player and cost us vital possession serveral times. The commentators even made mention that for a ground player he fumbles quite a lot.

It seems that we took it too easy going into this game which cost us. Hopefully we can improve next week and beat the Tigers.

[Bear]

Plugger46 you have been stamped after this thread .... never to be taken seriously again.

Unfortunatley your name has striking similarities to Tony's comeback in the #46 - a waste of time.

Absolutely no point responding to your comments on Crouch, Barry and Mathews.

[Newbie]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
Do you understand football? Do you think that every player has to be a matchwinner? Each player has a role to play and Crouch usually does his very well.

For us to be something, our second-tiers must be able to stand up and offer us something when our top-liners have a bad day.
When was the last time, we have seen that with our team?

In constrast, when Brisbane's top-liners were tagged out of the game, their second-liners chip in. Hart did that in the last grand final.

Why I singled out Crouch on this. Simple reason is that he is hitting his PEAK right now. And if he could not stand up right now, he is never going to stand up.

Tolerating strictly role-based players like Crouch will not deliver us a flag.

[Newbie]

Originally posted by Craig
What about fumbling Fosdike? He is definately not a one grab player and cost us vital possession serveral times. The commentators even made mention that for a ground player he fumbles quite a lot.

It seems that we took it too easy going into this game which cost us. Hopefully we can improve next week and beat the Tigers.

Forside is an interesting proposition. I at times, thought he has overcome this weakness of his. I remembered in the game against Brisbane, he made a classy one-grab pickup at full pace. I thought that was the break he needs. It seems he is going back to his shelf again. It is all in his head I think and that is pretty hard to fix.

[Plugger46]

Originally posted by Bear
Plugger46 you have been stamped after this thread .... never to be taken seriously again.

Unfortunatley your name has striking similarities to Tony's comeback in the #46 - a waste of time.

Absolutely no point responding to your comments on Crouch, Barry and Mathews.

Have I really Bear?

Well to tell you the truth, the last thing I'm worried about is the rubbish that comes out of your mouth. We are not going to win a flag with those 3 running around, it is as simple as that.

Obviously you have no idea if your getting into the greatest full-forward of all time, please inform me if you kicked 1360 goals you dropkick. What a joke you are mate.

There are reasons as to why that comeback failed, it never should have. I'll name them for you, if you want??

I'm personally not into making these personal attacks, but the attack you made was un-called for.