Barry, Crouch, Matthews

[Alison]

NMW Bloods - I agree that Barry should learn to look up at times before he kicks the ball etc as he can run in trouble but I really dislike (and this is not directed at you) the comments that he is dumb, stupid, can't play etc. I think that is quite rude from so-called supporters. I don't think Barry will ever do anything right in anyone's eyes.

As Bron mentioned. taking the B & F as an indication, Barry came 12th (I think) last year after missing 10 games. Good effort.

[Nico]

Originally posted by penga
admitdly (sp?), my football knowledge (outside of the swans) has only really start to evolve since i discovered this site late last year and when we subscribed to fox footy at about the same time (oct. last year) my knowledge is quickly growing, but i still dont have everyone down just yet thus, would explain y i thought lucas was a right footer

All is forgiven Penga, we have sent for a space shuttle to bring you back from the moon. I guess though you can see that our game is very involved, and is not just a matter of a few blokes having a kick in the park.

It would be great if someone could write a book on the wide range of tactics, plays etc employed by coaches and explain some of the termaknowledgies of the game such as - running forward of the play, playing off another player, touch and feel, periphery vision, voices, how a player like Goodes learns to position themselves strategically during phases of a game, rocket and floater handpasses and when to use them, and it just goes on. It is a science.

I understand the AFL makes a lot of this info available through their Level 1, 2 and 3 coaching courses and videos (done Level 1 myself). Maybe a call to them could snaffle you some literature to read up on.

By the way if go to the MCG, top level of the Southern Stand you will get a great view of how teams run in lines and flood back etc. You also get a better appreciation of where say a backman stands in relation to his forward.

Also when you have followed the game for some time you start to look at players from other teams more closely, particularly if you are watching replays of other teams. It is an experience to go to a game where the Swans are not playing as you are not biased, and then you will appreciate the umpires and players and see how parochial and illogical a lot of the comments are that come from the supporters of those teams.

[Nico]

I wasn't having a specific dig at Barry, rather that if he gets himself in trouble because he has to get back onto his left foot then that is not an excuse, despite some saying it is. Either learn to kick right foot or don't run to the right side.


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Beatifully said NMW.

[penga]

Originally posted by Nico
All is forgiven Penga, we have sent for a space shuttle to bring you back from the moon. I guess though you can see that our game is very involved, and is not just a matter of a few blokes having a kick in the park.

Also when you have followed the game for some time you start to look at players from other teams more closely, particularly if you are watching replays of other teams.

u missed my point, i am a '96 baby'... i was converted that year, we attended a few games in 97 and have been a member since 98... i have also played for a local team for two years when i was younger (u/18 in 97-98) and am currently training with the seconds of that same team every wednesday night (tonight), i cant play with them as i go to church on a saturday morning and thats when they play...

therefore, what i was saying was that since i have got fox footy channel, my knowledge of the AFL (ie players etc outside of the swans) has improved exponentially and only since then i have discovered that lucas is a left footer get my point now?

[Plugger46]

Penga,

As you are relatively new to the game, word of advice, don't listen to anything the media tell you, make your own opinions on everything, don't be guided by them.

[penga]

Originally posted by Plugger46
Penga,

As you are relatively new to the game, word of advice, don't listen to anything the media tell you, make your own opinions on everything, don't be guided by them.

new to the game? i think 7 years is enough to figure out whats going on!!! tool

[Plugger46]

Well, you haven't been brought up with it, put it that way smartarse.

[Roscoe]

Well Plugger 46 any comments on the performance by your
"terrible Trio"

Leo was great running out of defence. Wake up Plugger, he is going to do the occassional clanger, but he gives us something with his great running and evasion. I cant recall him being caught
in possession too many times this year.

Crouch did well after being beaten last week. Kept his opponent in check and did some good cleaning up, some strong tackles and some good bursts out of the backline.

Matthews was as solid as ever. This guy is not my favourite player
but fully deserves his spot in the side. Didn't do much wrong on sat nite (except get belted by Richo)

[Alison]

Leo Barry had a great game. Well done. Think he has been told to look up before he takes a bounce. He is so strong. Thought he was one of the best players although in the end it was a team effort.

[thommoone]

I always liked crouch and Barry, crouch is a great tagger and Barry gives us an enormous run out of defense and his positives clearly outway his nagatives.........
however, i never really liked Mathews, while i agree he deserves his spot in the team, i think his reaction time is much too slow, clearly demonstrated when he didnt htink quick enough to put his arms up to protect himself from richo, also he takes an eternity to release the ball in tight and as a result gets tackled afair bit.
this is just my observations

[Plugger46]

Originally posted by Roscoe
Well Plugger 46 any comments on the performance by your
"terrible Trio"

Leo was great running out of defence. Wake up Plugger, he is going to do the occassional clanger, but he gives us something with his great running and evasion. I cant recall him being caught
in possession too many times this year.

Crouch did well after being beaten last week. Kept his opponent in check and did some good cleaning up, some strong tackles and some good bursts out of the backline.

Matthews was as solid as ever. This guy is not my favourite player
but fully deserves his spot in the side. Didn't do much wrong on sat nite (except get belted by Richo)

Leo played a good game on the weekend, but you must be watching different games to me if your not seeing that he gets caught. The "occasional" clanger?? ... it happens far too often for it to be occasional.

Crouchy was ok, he kept krakour to, two goals which is not too bad.

Don't know why your singing the praises of Matthews though, didn't do anything really.

Oi Roscoe, did you happen to see a couple of telling touches from Warfe on Saturday night.

He is starting to find some form, as I told everyone that he would.

[penga]

Originally posted by Plugger46

Well, you haven't been brought up with it, put it that way smartarse.

least im not a condascending moron

Originally posted by Plugger46
Oi Roscoe, did you happen to see a couple of telling touches from Warfe on Saturday night.

He is starting to find some form, as I told everyone that he would.

u mistify reason, he got 4 touches and only when he had any chance of getting a telling touch, he overran the ball and it went out of bounds... he had a good 60 minutes of game time as well, thats 0.07 touches per minute

[Nico]

I have been one of the Leo baggers. I have got to say I think Saturday night was his very best game.

He only once went the wrong way and got himself into trouble, and was able to extract himself. He seemed to look where he was kicking and hit the target most times.

If he plays like that every week and has learned from his past errors, (he must be watching videos, they all do) then you won't get any more complaints from me.

[desredandwhite]

p46, penga, play the ball, not the man please.

FWIW, I reckon Leo Barry is one of the important pieces in our backline. When it goes wrong, he just looks silly, but when we're on fire, he can provide that burst of creativity that gives us an edge, if that makes sense. I think we need Nicks back playing this sort of role too - His best work was done at HBF.

[Bear]

it's ok Des, P46 is not into personal attacks