How good was that!?!

[chammond]

Clarke has been the best tap ruckman in the AFL since Wynd retired, but that doesn't make him the most effective ruckman - I'd give that accolade to King, who is a different type of ruckman again.

Because Clarke and Biglands are such different players, interchanging them often upsets the opposition's ruck team.

Ball's overall stats this year are totally skewed by the early rounds, when he was really struggling for match fitness. If we had Ball and Doyle both fit and firing, I reckon they'd be as good as any combination going round in overall terms.

[swan_song]

Woooooooo hoooooo!!!
Watch those bombers fly up, up....NOT!

[Cheer Cheer]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
It depends on what you want the ruck guys to do. The Adelaide guys are well ahead on hit outs, but the Swans guys are miles ahead on possessions and marks. The Swans are not a great ruck combination, however are very effective around the ground. I would prefer my ruckmen to do that if I had to choose.

Thankyou took the words out of my mouth

[penga]

Originally posted by swan_song
Woooooooo hoooooo!!!
Watch those bombers fly up, up....NOT!

LOL, call!!!

fair call to, NMW...

[NMWBloods]

On ruckmen, I actually think Gardiner (WCE) is one of the best in the comp.

[TheHood]

I wrote at the start of the season that we have one of the most talented big man divisions in the comp, even if for sheer depth:

Ball: Former key forward, now loves the ruck, plays his best footy on the ball, can save the day down back and go forward AND kick goals.

Goodes: "nough said"

Doyle: When this guy is fit, almost impossible to outmark from point blank and is an excellent kick for goal too. I can't wait to have him back out on the ground.

Hall: People are fogetting that Baz's tap work inside our attacking 50 is some of the best goin around! Sets up the crumbers better that most ruck specialists.

[nicko18]

whew, so refreshing to read a thread like this, rather than the ones on bigfooty where every third post is some collingwood troll trying to demean sydney's efforts

[sharp9]

Hall's ruck work has really impressed me. Always looks so solid. Never seems to be properly beaten as his second effort's are outstanding.

As for Ball it is clear that we do much better as a team when he is rucking in the centre. Why this should be is leaving me a little bewildered. We don't win the ball any more often. He gets more hitouts than Goodes but they almost bnever go to a Swans player. We have been slaughteres in clearances in nearly every game this year...but somehow this doesn't seem to affect us too much. Doesn't this contravene every known law of AFL football?

On Saturday nite it was 53 - 30 to Essendon!!! Unbelievably awful at stoppages we are (as Yoda might say)....as far as getting the first clean possession.

Get this though, we won the hitouts 50 - 40.

But our inside 50s were ahead.

Something is not right with that!!!

When we do have passages of winning clearances we tend to pile on 5 goals in a minute. So, in short, when other teams win clearances they don't get much advantage beacuse our pressure is so great that they either turn it over in the centre of it gets bouced straight back off the half back line....but when we get clearances the other team is right rooted because we get it in quick and score a goal with six out of ten shots from anywhere in the forward 60. Hmmmmm......

Is this deliberate?

[penga]

great breakdown there, sharp9, it amkes u think how good we could do with an effective tap ruckman, such as gardiner... (BTW, im not saying we should try and recruit gardiner as it would be rather expensive to get gardiner AND judd )

[TheMase]

Originally posted by sharp9
Hall's ruck work has really impressed me. Always looks so solid. Never seems to be properly beaten as his second effort's are outstanding.

As for Ball it is clear that we do much better as a team when he is rucking in the centre. Why this should be is leaving me a little bewildered. We don't win the ball any more often. He gets more hitouts than Goodes but they almost bnever go to a Swans player. We have been slaughteres in clearances in nearly every game this year...but somehow this doesn't seem to affect us too much. Doesn't this contravene every known law of AFL football?

On Saturday nite it was 53 - 30 to Essendon!!! Unbelievably awful at stoppages we are (as Yoda might say)....as far as getting the first clean possession.

Get this though, we won the hitouts 50 - 40.

But our inside 50s were ahead.

Something is not right with that!!!

When we do have passages of winning clearances we tend to pile on 5 goals in a minute. So, in short, when other teams win clearances they don't get much advantage beacuse our pressure is so great that they either turn it over in the centre of it gets bouced straight back off the half back line....but when we get clearances the other team is right rooted because we get it in quick and score a goal with six out of ten shots from anywhere in the forward 60. Hmmmmm......

Is this deliberate?

Simple really. We run off half back better than any other team in the competition.

That is how we have been winning games IMO.
The turnover from half back, and the speed we move it up the ground.

We are probably the best team in the AFL at this at the moment.