Fosdike

[ScottH]

Originally posted by dendol
There would be absolute uproar from the masses here if we found out the medical staff ruled Mickey was OK to play if in fact he wasnt.

Look at Buckley.. Was he rushed back to early? Would another week or 2 made his hammy more stable?? Probably, now he is out for another month, maybe.

We certainly don't want that.

[Wazza]

I propose that Fosdike take over the mantle from Saddington as the most bagged swans player on this board.

I propose you take ove the mantle as the most bagged supporter on this site...haha just joking

Seriously though I find your comments on Fosdike to be way off the mark, Fosdike had be having a fairly consistent seasons wininning plenty of possesions has great hands and the ability to pick the ball up one grab - hardly ever fumbles off the ground. His foot passing isnt the best but he gets plenty off hard ball gets and I would actually have him above J Bolton for performance to date this season.

You reckon Saddington has the pace for a wing? not sure about that one either. I think Saddos best place is on the oppositions 3 rd forward option.

Tough game this week if we lose puts huge pressure on the team to win enough games to fall into the 8.

Cheers

Waz

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by Schneidergirl
We ALL know that the midfield isn't as strong as it once was (with sniff... sniff Cressa going) but to single out Jude and Nic (nearly) every week is getting beyond a joke!

Hardly surprising though. They were our two first-round draft picks and are there to lead the midfield. They are struggling badly.

[motorace_182]

If we want to pick a player that doesn't look to have a clue what he's doing we should drop Ben Matthews

Dumbest thing I have EVER heard. He is our most important player at the moment. Without him we would definitely not be in the 8. I would rather see him take up his full 15sec and be called to play on than kick to a contest on the boundary line. He is our linkman and Roosy has recognised that, he, along with O'Keefe would be leading our B&F thus far without a doubt.
How can u honestly say he is not in our Top 5 most important players, the guy is awesome, I would rate him as one of the best midfielders playing the game today.

[Go Swannies]

Originally posted by motorace_182
Dumbest thing I have EVER heard. He is our most important player at the moment. Without him we would definitely not be in the 8. I would rather see him take up his full 15sec and be called to play on than kick to a contest on the boundary line. He is our linkman and Roosy has recognised that, he, along with O'Keefe would be leading our B&F thus far without a doubt.
How can u honestly say he is not in our Top 5 most important players, the guy is awesome, I would rate him as one of the best midfielders playing the game today.

Um, I guess irony is an alien concept to you? My whole comment about Ben Mathews was "If we want to pick a player that doesn't look to have a clue what he's doing we should drop Ben Matthews. After every mark he takes he looks like he's run onto the ground by mistake. But, hang on, he's number 34 on the list of the AFL's top 100 for disposals - only Paul Williams is ahead of him."

PS I didn't mean it about dropping Goodes for lookalike Nathan_Lovett-Murray either. Though after the past few weeks I'm warming to the idea.

[cressakel]

How can u honestly say he is not in our Top 5 most important players, the guy is awesome, I would rate him as one of the best midfielders playing the game today. [/B][/QUOTE]

Ben Matthews isn't a midfielder at present, as he is not good enough to play on the ball. He plays mainly as a sweeping Half-Back or Back Pocket player.

If Ben Matthews was a midfielder, would you rate Matthews ahead of other midfield guns in Hird, S.Black, Voss, Buckley, Cousins, Bell, Hasleby, Pavlich, Crawford, Judd, R.Harvey, Hayes, N.Stevens, Riccuito, McLeod, P.Burgoyne, B.Johnson, S.West, N.Lappin, Simpson, S.Grant and B.Harvey ??

Give me a spell !

I'll have what you're on !!

[Plugger46]

Originally posted by motorace_182
Dumbest thing I have EVER heard. He is our most important player at the moment. Without him we would definitely not be in the 8. I would rather see him take up his full 15sec and be called to play on than kick to a contest on the boundary line. He is our linkman and Roosy has recognised that, he, along with O'Keefe would be leading our B&F thus far without a doubt.
How can u honestly say he is not in our Top 5 most important players, the guy is awesome, I would rate him as one of the best midfielders playing the game today.

I've never heard so much bull**** in all my life.

[dimelb]

Re: Fosdike

Originally posted by barry
I propose that Fosdike take over the mantle from Saddington as the most bagged swans player on this board.

He is useless. Couldnt hit a barn from 20m. He's slow to dispose of it. His kicks without pressure hit the opposition defenders lase up, on the chest.
I only pray he handballs every time he gets it, but he doesnt.

I honestly doubt he would get a game in any other team.

Short answer to your proposal - no.
Fosdike is capable of being in our top10 - check his game against Melbourne at the end of last season. And at the moment he's not playing badly so much as not playing up to his potential, along with a few others we know about. I'd like to see him work his way back into form, as I'm sure he can do.

[Nico]

Originally posted by motorace_182
Dumbest thing I have EVER heard. He is our most important player at the moment. Without him we would definitely not be in the 8. I would rather see him take up his full 15sec and be called to play on than kick to a contest on the boundary line. He is our linkman and Roosy has recognised that, he, along with O'Keefe would be leading our B&F thus far without a doubt.
How can u honestly say he is not in our Top 5 most important players, the guy is awesome, I would rate him as one of the best midfielders playing the game today.

No way that Matthews is a link man. A true link man is a midfielderwho gets a bit of the footy around the centre.eg. Greg Williams, and spends plenty of time up forward. Matthews plays in a very narrow zone on the half backline, has little or no run off half back and generally takes a handpass or chip kicks. His kicks have absolutely no penetration, and although I believe he discovered a heart muscle in 2003 he seems to have dropped back into a very negative style this season.

But I guess someone who racks up possessions is better than someone who has trouble getting near the footy eg. J. Bolton.

[Diego]

Fossie does some nice things and whem on song can execute some nice lace out passes to our leading forwards.

What worries me is the times he has no pressure and we are rebounding and he gives it back. Those small things that can cost us.

Everytime he has the ball i fear and expect a clanger. I still think he lacks some footy smarts.

[penga]

i dont know who this matthews is that you are all bagging! we dont have a matthews on our list...

[penga]

fozzie was the equal 4th highest possession getter for us yesterday

he came off late in the third quarter maybe at the start of the 4th with a nasty big gash above his eye - you cant say that he wasnt showing some heart

[barry]

Originally posted by penga
fozzie was the equal 4th highest possession getter for us yesterday

he came off late in the third quarter maybe at the start of the 4th with a nasty big gash above his eye - you cant say that he wasnt showing some heart

Probably No.1 on clangers too.

What absolutely @@@@s me about Fosdike is that when we get a good run through the centre (rare these days), he links up, and has the final pass into the forward 50, with an open forward line, plenty of leads on offer, no pressure, and he kicks it over the head of the leading forward to the trailing backman.

These situations should, no must, be converted into goals because we have the opposition on the ropes. Instead it rebounds out of defence and is deep in the oppositions forward line before we know it. Quite often resulting in a 12 point play (thats minus 12 points from a swans perspective).

[Ruda Wakening]

Re: Fosdike

Originally posted by barry

He is useless. Couldnt hit a barn from 20m. He's slow to dispose of it. His kicks without pressure hit the opposition defenders lase up, on the chest.
I honestly doubt he would get a game in any other team.

... And yet he still polled the third highest for Brownlow votes last year from the Swans. Second highest being Jude Bolton who had a great year and was constantly praised by all, and the other being the winner, Adam Goodes.

Not a bad effort for someone who is "useless".

[NMWBloods]

Fosdike's problem, IMHO, is consistency. This is reflected quite well by his high polling in the Brownlow. When he is playing well he is very useful, but when playing badly he is pretty much a liability.

His passing is a case in point. When running toward F50 and delivering to the forwards, often you'll see his kick hit the forward lace-out on the chest. Beautiful to watch. Just about as often though, it will sail over the head of the forward or it will lack force off the boot and bounce far too early making a difficult ball for the forward to gather.

His clearance stats by round are a good example of his inconsistency:

2, 7, 4, 6, 3, 1, 2

Same with his possessions:

19, 25, 10, 30, 20, 16, 14

Sometimes he does a lot, sometimes only a little.

Pure stats are also hard to use to assess Fosdike because, as noted above, his delivery is not always consistent.