Doyle has to go......

[Rob-bloods]

If only it were as easy as dropping Dolye....we could win another premiership!

[Foreign Legion]

Doyle did nothing - King did nothing.

Chambers did nothing - the game today was not decided by the ruckmen.

BUT, I reckon he needs to take a few marks to get his confidence back - put him at FF when Ball is in the ruck. He can't be getting tired or confidence on the bench.

[The Boot]

Originally posted by Foreign Legion
Doyle did nothing - King did nothing.

Chambers did nothing - the game today was not decided by the ruckmen.

BUT, I reckon he needs to take a few marks to get his confidence back - put him at FF when Ball is in the ruck. He can't be getting tired or confidence on the bench.

Yes, for someone as TALL as he is .. a slight jump and a good clamp on the leather would make me much happier.

[bigswan]

Doyle has to go

Can't agree on Doyle. He's continuing to improve every game. He'll take time. As well, there's nobody else.

[The Boot]

Originally posted by ugg
Likes to give short sharp elbows if the opposing ruckman is behind him and paid the price today. Totally unnecessary in my opinion.

Is that the sort of thing we'll read about in the "cited by video" column tomorrow?

[CureTheSane]

I saw possibly the worst game a footballer has played one day out a Waverley (I think)

It was Hawks vs Port and Primus was a complete joke.

Wouldn't mind having him in our side now.

Give Doyle some time.
remember the plan...

[liz]

There seems to be a pattern emerging in respect of comments about Doyle.

One week it's "Doyle showed a bit today" and the next it's "Doyle will never be a good player".

He's still very much a novice in terms of experience, and the ruck craft takes some time to learn. Stafford was absolutely terrible in his first few year - I remember him telling the story of how he received no votes at all in the club B&F count in either 1994 or 1995. Then suddenly he emerged as a really good ruckman in 1996 and was super for us until injuries got him down.

Doyle has also not been able to complete a pre-season for several years now, which must be affecting his leap and run.

I'm reasonably confident he has got what it takes so long as the injury gods start to smile on him.

[RogueSwan]

Originally posted by lizz
I'm reasonably confident he has got what it takes so long as the injury gods start to smile on him.

Agreed, I actually thought Doyle showed a bit today, I am looking forward to having him in the team for the long run.

He is an easy target for criticism, his errors stand out a little more as he comes into play more at stoppages.

[Nico]

It is a wonder any ruckman got a tap today. The bouncing was nothing but appalling.

I believe at one stage the ABC commentators said in as many words that umpire Schmidt was not up to AFL standard such was his ineptness in all facets of his game.

[j0lly]

Originally posted by Rob-bloods
eg Schneider has been very ordinary for three weeks now and does not look at all ready to be starting player again yet.

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IMO

schneider really needs to go back to the 2s...tis been 3 weeks already!

so he was an awesome forward and kciked 30 sumthing goals last year...that was last year

this year he needs a good kick up the bum

2nd year blues?

[barry]

Originally posted by ugg


3) isn't so easy to correct. He just seems to have no idea where the midfielders are.

I'd say the problem of him not tapping to our advantage is that our midfield stategies are based around Ball, and Doyle, being the second stringer, and different sytle of ruckman, just has to break even.

If Doyle became No.1 ruck when Ball retires, I think you'd see more effective tapping, as the midfield would be geared to his style of play.

I do wish he'd just thump the cr@p out of it in the meantime.

[swansrule100]

ive been critical of doyle a bit lately but i will keep my promise to reserve judgement for a bit. I think he may flourish if he was given the number 1 ruck job??

[Triple B]

Barry, you have hit the nail on the head.

I spoke at length with DrJ about this a few weeks back.

Our midfield setup is very defensive at ball-ups and centre square because Ball rarely gets clean tap-outs. Doyle gets way more clean touches but the midfield setup remains the same.

When Doyle is contesting we need to roll the dice a bit and get some numbers forward so when Doyle punches the ball forward it may go to advantage.

Doyle is vital to our future and I think he is a gun, not just at the minute. Anybody who thinks 'he must go' truly has NFI, IMO.

Please footy gods, let the man have an injury free, full pre-season.

[NMWBloods]

Interestingly though, Ball had a lot of clean tap outs today around the ground. He really struggles at the centre bounce though, as he just can't jump.

[swansrule100]

balls body might be gone..

i think he may retire at the end of the year
not saying wether he should or not!!! but think he will