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  • JF_Bay22_SCG
    expat Sydneysider
    • Jan 2003
    • 3978

    #16
    I know that people in Perth will not be happy, with the Eagles having been bumsteered a couple of times. BUT the AFL is well aware that is just CANNOT afford to piss off the notoriously fickle Sydney market, who as we know ARE starting to sit up and take a genuine interest in the club and to a lesser extent the game in general. I would love to Terror to have huge headings slamming the AFL. I think that would be enough to swing the AFL, ever wanting to develop the game to prospective Sydney-based sponsors and corporations.

    Putting it bluntly, in this country when the city of Sydney gets a sniffle, the rest of the country catches a cold. Most businesses are based here. The city is the countries biggest income-earner by miles. Whilst sponsors and business will not dissert the West Coast Eagles and the game in the peripheral and small WA market if they don't get a home final, in Sydney they could very likely just think "Ah, that's just a Melbourne sport not interested in playing here. Stuff them!!!" And will go and invest in rugby union the NRL the basketball etc etc.

    It is not about fairness to supporters in the outer that the AFL is reticent to neglect Sydney. It is because from a business perspective it is verging on corporate suicide. One foul move could destroy any respect the game has engendered over the years.

    For this reason the AFL is correct in trying to push for a Sydney-based final in my view. We just cant afford NOT to have it in Sydney.

    JF
    "Never ever ever state that Sydney is gone.They are like cockroaches in the aftermath of a nuclear war"
    (Forum poster 'Change', Big Footy 04Apr09)

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    • Beaussie
      On the Rookie List
      • Mar 2003
      • 328

      #17
      Originally posted by JF_Bay22_SCG
      I know that people in Perth will not be happy, with the Eagles having been bumsteered a couple of times. BUT the AFL is well aware that is just CANNOT afford to piss off the notoriously fickle Sydney market, who as we know ARE starting to sit up and take a genuine interest in the club and to a lesser extent the game in general. I would love to Terror to have huge headings slamming the AFL. I think that would be enough to swing the AFL, ever wanting to develop the game to prospective Sydney-based sponsors and corporations.
      The Daily Telegraph slamming the AFL with huge headlines would be great and would no doubt have the AFL working much harder to rectify the MCG debacle.

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      • sharp9
        Senior Player
        • Jan 2003
        • 2508

        #18
        Originally posted by Glenn
        Thought it was flexible to suit the whim of the AFL and TV execs
        Exactly....Essendon/Melbourne would be on a Friday night for sure. In fact Essendon against anybody will be the Friday night "blockbuster" same as last year.
        "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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        • sharp9
          Senior Player
          • Jan 2003
          • 2508

          #19
          Except....oooops Essendon are playing this Sunday so there goes that theory!

          Mind you clubs have had five day breaks before.

          Port, Essendon and Geelong play on Sunday so if the final week goes as expected

          Port/Geelong - Sunday at AAMI (esp. with Port earning the right to a full 7 day break)

          Essendon/ Melbourne - Saturday afternoon at the G

          Brisbane/ St. Kilda - Saturday night at the Gabba

          Sydney/West Coast - Friday night at Telstra Stadium

          This also sees no team travelling both Rnd 22 and Week 1 of Finals.
          "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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          • robbieando
            The King
            • Jan 2003
            • 2750

            #20
            Originally posted by sharp9
            Except....oooops Essendon are playing this Sunday so there goes that theory!

            Mind you clubs have had five day breaks before.

            Port, Essendon and Geelong play on Sunday so if the final week goes as expected

            Port/Geelong - Sunday at AAMI (esp. with Port earning the right to a full 7 day break)

            Essendon/ Melbourne - Saturday afternoon at the G

            Brisbane/ St. Kilda - Saturday night at the Gabba

            Sydney/West Coast - Friday night at Telstra Stadium

            This also sees no team travelling both Rnd 22 and Week 1 of Finals.
            Swans won't play a final on a Friday Night because there would be no point in Channel 10 showing it up against the NRL's Friday Night Match on Channel 9. If we play it in Sydney, it will be a Saturday Night. If its in Melbourne it will be Saturday Afternoon. We don't play on Friday Nights anymore for a reason.
            Once was, now elsewhere

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            • tez
              Warming the Bench
              • Jan 2003
              • 251

              #21
              I would expect it to be played on the Saturday, to ensure
              they attract the largest possible crowd.

              A Friday night game would not offer the opportunity of
              crowd maximisation, whereas Saturday night would guarantee the bigger crowd.

              To my knowledge we have never played at The Stadium on a
              Friday before.

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              • Damien
                Living in 2005
                • Jan 2003
                • 3713

                #22
                Originally posted by tez
                I would expect it to be played on the Saturday, to ensure
                they attract the largest possible crowd.

                A Friday night game would not offer the opportunity of
                crowd maximisation, whereas Saturday night would guarantee the bigger crowd.

                To my knowledge we have never played at The Stadium on a
                Friday before.
                Sydneysiders generally love Friday night games, in the past, we have had great crowds to Friday night games, our last one against Essendon, was on a POURING night and got 40,000 people..The only reason we don't get any games these days is because of Channel 10's committment to us, and the fact that Channel 9 couldn't show the game before 11.15 on the Friday.

                I actually believe a Friday night Elimination final would draw a bigger crowd than a Saturday night one.

                The only thing stopping a Friday night game at Telstra is Channel 10 not wanting to go head to head with the NRL match on Nine.

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                • swansrule100
                  The quarterback
                  • May 2004
                  • 4538

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Damien
                  Sydneysiders generally love Friday night games, in the past, we have had great crowds to Friday night games, our last one against Essendon, was on a POURING night and got 40,000 people..The only reason we don't get any games these days is because of Channel 10's committment to us, and the fact that Channel 9 couldn't show the game before 11.15 on the Friday.

                  I actually believe a Friday night Elimination final would draw a bigger crowd than a Saturday night one.

                  The only thing stopping a Friday night game at Telstra is Channel 10 not wanting to go head to head with the NRL match on Nine.

                  id like a friday night final.... but i dont live in sydney!

                  Would the afl outrate the nrl?
                  Theres not much left to say

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                  • Damien
                    Living in 2005
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 3713

                    #24
                    Originally posted by swansrule100
                    id like a friday night final.... but i dont live in sydney!

                    Would the afl outrate the nrl?
                    Not in a million years.

                    Channel 10 would get slaughtered - our best hope would be a boring NRL match and our match to be ultra exciting. Then people might turn over and have a look.

                    (We would kill them nationally of course, but all 10 is going to care about in the first instance is Sydney rating)

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                    • swansrule100
                      The quarterback
                      • May 2004
                      • 4538

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Damien
                      Not in a million years.

                      Channel 10 would get slaughtered - our best hope would be a boring NRL match and our match to be ultra exciting. Then people might turn over and have a look.

                      (We would kill them nationally of course, but all 10 is going to care about in the first instance is Sydney rating)

                      id imagine it would be a saturday night game... with a south australian final friday night... (if all stays as is)
                      Theres not much left to say

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                      • Ryan Bomford
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 652

                        #26
                        congatulations sr100 on your 1000th post, in record fashion. You must suffering from RSI

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                        • swansrule100
                          The quarterback
                          • May 2004
                          • 4538

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Ryan Bomford
                          congatulations sr100 on your 1000th post, in record fashion. You must suffering from RSI

                          suffering from lack of assignment work

                          perhaps i can submit my work on RWO
                          Theres not much left to say

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                          • robbieando
                            The King
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 2750

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Damien
                            The only thing stopping a Friday night game at Telstra is Channel 10 not wanting to go head to head with the NRL match on Nine.
                            That's the issue stopping the game. Channel 10 haven't in the past shown the Friday Night final into Sydney until 11pm because they don't want to go up against the NRL on Ch 9, ditto why Ch 9 doesn't show the NRL finals finals live anymore into Melbourne. Problem this year is that the AFL look like they have to pick between Brisbane vs St Kilda and Sydney vs West Coast for the Friday Night and all signs point towards the Brisbane vs St Kilda match because it a) Has a Melbourne team in it and b) Brisbane's TV market isn't as important to the AFL and Channel 10 as Sydney's.
                            Once was, now elsewhere

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                            • JF_Bay22_SCG
                              expat Sydneysider
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 3978

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Damien
                              Sydneysiders generally love Friday night games, in the past, we have had great crowds to Friday night games, our last one against Essendon, was on a POURING night and got 40,000 people.

                              I actually believe a Friday night Elimination final would draw a bigger crowd than a Saturday night one.

                              The only thing stopping a Friday night game at Telstra is Channel 10 not wanting to go head to head with the NRL match on Nine.
                              Totally disagree Damien. A Friday nighter may work at the SCG where people can rock up after Friday drinkees with work colleagues.

                              You simply would NOT get the hordes from interstate for the match. Nor could I imagine a huge amount of people would enjoy coming straight from work all tired and stressed after a hard day.

                              I hated Friday nighters for that reason. It was such a stress to have to bring a change of clothes to work and the battle the Cleveland St/South Dowling St peak-out crawl. Once a bus I took took 50 minutes to get to the end of Cleveland St. (You can walk to the SCG from Central in 30ish!).

                              JF
                              "Never ever ever state that Sydney is gone.They are like cockroaches in the aftermath of a nuclear war"
                              (Forum poster 'Change', Big Footy 04Apr09)

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                              • ROK Lobster
                                RWO Life Member
                                • Aug 2004
                                • 8658

                                #30
                                Originally posted by JF_Bay22_SCG
                                Totally disagree Damien. A Friday nighter may work at the SCG where people can rock up after Friday drinkees with work colleagues.

                                You simply would NOT get the hordes from interstate for the match. Nor could I imagine a huge amount of people would enjoy coming straight from work all tired and stressed after a hard day.

                                I hated Friday nighters for that reason. It was such a stress to have to bring a change of clothes to work and the battle the Cleveland St/South Dowling St peak-out crawl. Once a bus I took took 50 minutes to get to the end of Cleveland St. (You can walk to the SCG from Central in 30ish!).

                                JF
                                Friday nighters would cruel it for me and the family. Living a few hours out of town, Sat night or Sun afernoons are great. Come up Sat after Sat morning sport, see some family, stay Sat night and go home Sun late afternoon. If the Swans had a majority of Fri night games we would not be members. Simple as that. And judging by the numbers of cars we see going up and down with Swans stickers on the back I think there would be a few in the same boat. I do not know how many country members, or members who lve in the country, the Swans have, but the numbers would be such that they would have to consider the impact Fri night games would have.

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